From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:50:21 -0600 Message-ID: <87r3vs25xu.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87zjah7f8p.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <87mw6hse3h.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419187852 17777 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 18:50:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 18:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Phillip Lord , "Allen S. Rout" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 19:50:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2laR-0007dq-Nf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:50:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38071 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2laQ-00052v-Rt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:50:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33133) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2laH-00051h-AA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:50:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2laB-0006Qw-Qv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:50:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yk0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::231]:41905) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2laB-0006Qo-Ml for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:50:23 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-yk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 9so1698208ykp.8 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:50:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=GZY1v+RsllUS6JnxgXrpDbRjNg1pm9sE+oumU5OoYlA=; b=XaK12smXzH1quYKzBxf8Brj3O0m4YxhZeUVUNqSF406s6n2nIhzEojIoJt4KuJGBkE kX9mpled5l+9nYWas9YG9JJ/Fy+5ZHraD51NC1dale6ieU0eSvRHNjfb6UrrJfz5aWct bluoFmWq/5G62F3aRCdIE3xXmZST9TMZvTDQYfdoL1SryIWXTChnbfnEdpvl1ORc69Dg vAR02C8nTrrfII/F1XXj6exJj+X03Zue7fc/Q+qHMq0KI7ue88IZ9/sjZvfxsEg0PjQp iByJIITtj6MQM56oeFMIzwAAwxg/HYKzRcVib0dzMhCMh061xIJ7jwxa1oWJHW3qk6Pg PwZA== X-Received: by 10.170.156.130 with SMTP id x124mr17394403ykc.31.1419187822985; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:50:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from floss.red-bean.com (64-145-114-106.client.dsl.net. [64.145.114.106]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n8sm10205889yhn.10.2014.12.21.10.50.22 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:50:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87mw6hse3h.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 15:37:22 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180437 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >I concede that you know your mind better than I do. But given that >you *did* "write the book", I at least have trouble distinguishing >your "I wish"es from your "You should"s. If you see what I mean. :-) > >Anyway, I apologize and will work on my own temper in the New Year. >Happy Holidays to you and all the denizens of emacs-devel! Oh, that's my fault -- you were never intemperate. I phrased some "I wish"es such that they leaned too far toward "You should"s, in earlier posts. The scary thing about the Internet is that there's no message-sized backspace key. I'll try to do better on that in the New Year too :-).