From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What would an "An Official" GNU Emacs Book look like? Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 19:22:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87r3qfdspr.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <554CED70.1080705@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431883232 23537 80.91.229.3 (17 May 2015 17:20:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 17:20:32 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 17 19:20:26 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu2Ei-0002tO-LL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 19:20:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu2Eh-0005VC-RR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 13:20:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47425) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu2EV-0005Uu-8a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 13:20:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu2ER-0002Mt-3A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 13:20:11 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu2EQ-0002KD-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 13:20:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu2EP-0002iC-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 19:20:05 +0200 Original-Received: from nl106-137-66.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.66]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 May 2015 19:20:04 +0200 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-66.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 May 2015 19:20:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 49 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-66.student.uu.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:egzWpsziC/w5QgjTxhng6VThK/s= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186556 Archived-At: Vaidheeswaran C writes: > I don't have concrete answers to your questions. > > Without seeking to define the content of the book > (for now), let us just __name__ my effort "A Emacs > Primer". > > What I hope to do is: > > 1. Produce some sample draft (of narrow scope) that > is agreeable to the maintainers. The initial draft > will set (or define) the future direction for > this effort. > > 2. Lobby for an Official Git repo and discussion > list for the project. > > The blessings-from-FSF is something that I consider > as non-negotiable. The rest can be negotiated. Aren't you "doing" this the opposite way? First think (decide) what you want to do. Then solve practical issues with Git, a listbot, and so on. If you don't know exactly what the book should be about but you want to be active writing about Emacs, why don't you start a blog with random articles of things that appeal to you? Just add them one by one. For example, I would write about Gnus, w3m, interfaces, font lock, finger habits, typing, etc., much as I do often on gnu.emacs.help. After compiling say 100 such pieces I would ask "is this material for a book?" Probably it wouldn't be, but who knows? That way you aren't blocked in your desire for activity by trying to figure out things beforehand and getting stuck on trying to solve practical measures to support a project which you don't even know what it is. So instead, just start being active today, and see where it takes you :) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573