From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:29:00 +0200 Message-ID: <87r3kusx8z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87io6dl0h0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhb82qxc.fsf@gmail.com> <87oag4jk74.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k2qrki45.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737xf9je9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pp0fm0j3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445006023 13896 80.91.229.3 (16 Oct 2015 14:33:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?=) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 16 16:33:42 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn64g-0008Lb-8l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:33:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54055 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn64f-0004Zs-KM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn64T-0004Td-R7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:33:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn64S-0001Kp-Uf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:33:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56641) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn64L-0001Gr-7q; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:33:17 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42222 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn64J-00025Q-2k; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:33:15 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 33586EBEB9; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:29:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87pp0fm0j3.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22's?= message of "Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:03:39 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191757 Archived-At: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > David Kastrup skribis: > >> Shrug. There is the GUILE branch. In my opinion its largest obstacle >> towards acceptance is the failure of GUILE strings to offer a comparable >> feature set to Emacs multibyte strings: nothing outside of the Unicode >> range, no byte transparent reproduction. > > OTOH, I imagine Emacs could build its own abstraction, if needed, on top > of Guile bytevectors. Sure, but then Emacs strings cannot be manipulated using GUILE string functions. Same with Emacs buffers (which otherwise could be something like random-access string ports). >> This needs an overhaul of GUILE's string handling (which delegates >> parts of it to helper libraries, some of those being under control of >> GNU, some not). > > String handling is partly delegated to GNU libunistring. There=E2=80=99s= no > other library involved. What about libiconv? It would appear that parts of it are in the GUILE source tree (admittedly, under GNU control). --=20 David Kastrup