Re: VC menu ?

[Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>]

On Thu, 06 Jul 2017 20:50:24 -0400 Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@udel.edu> wrote: 

MO> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2017 07:27:12 -0400 Mark Oteiza <mvoteiza@udel.edu> wrote: 
MO> Sarcasm aside, if you had ever flipped through the Emacs manual or
MO> scrolled through a list of keybindings, you would have been aware of VC.
>> 
>> I think menu-driven UI discovery is fun and an essential part of the GUI
>> experience.

MO> I agree.  It's but one of many useful self-documenting facilities in
MO> Emacs.  Unfortunately the original poster thinks the others are silly and
MO> that the menu should spoon feed.

That's not the impression I got, and would prefer to talk about the
proposal rather than people's thoughts. Also, I think many of our
discussions here tend to see Emacs users as experts with 10+ years of
experience (survivor bias).

Anyhow, my position is that the VC menu is as essential today as the
Recent and Buffers menus and should be at the top.

As a compromise, maybe we can show VC by default, but also have an
option in the VC menu to "Don't show VC menu at top, put it under
Tools." That way annoyed users can move it out easily.

Ted