From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inconsistent parsing functions in bibtex-mode Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 20:57:32 +0300 Message-ID: <87r2ja2h6b.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <61833.21401.424935.23310@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1533664550 9848 195.159.176.226 (7 Aug 2018 17:55:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 17:55:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Roland Winkler , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 07 19:55:46 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fn6Cv-0002P3-03 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2018 19:55:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40279 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fn6Ez-0000Sg-Ar for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2018 13:57:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fn6Er-0000QT-Tr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2018 13:57:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fn6Eo-00010p-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2018 13:57:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x12d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::12d]:33264) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fn6Eo-0000uz-Ie for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2018 13:57:42 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id u14-v6so12307770lfu.0 for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2018 10:57:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tcd-ie.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=VjecoGj6am836YEtkpbwWk+1bRbHVljgtmGdv0a0lEE=; b=bQ76e3jQcGqtzEk3x2yCelssng8mtJOKoKoGOldIj10KXk1VDqaidz27IkUpnhY0Eq C43D60AkHCKeyNXA80BjjRzKw8EwRh15WtYHNpKLkj3lLCZvMNezx+s8kjTwTS0ajSHK /KI11r+BRPoLDJHkNkxQZfrU1NVYSAWUbaFOMqNV+Vli6Ods4xSAa3vOqj1JrR58dp5F V4tY4tdIiJc0P6zFlwsHhC9E3kbL0++mh0Ew3gf+bj8RMwlEPW5Gk4g0WXbEn37bZ5pS 923p00ByUrXleC5shYpGRYwta9CS4E4AZLT7ZrxDTrCCZHIcAVWL8URei/Le5kSGs3c7 QLXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=VjecoGj6am836YEtkpbwWk+1bRbHVljgtmGdv0a0lEE=; b=BUVQVJ0S8AOyIXrKgBFKY5f6/yVprT0x79tb8enxN1ubGRWJTPhpHE+D0c/qWI64yK fYEDBVFGZCPUTXEMdpoGEcCv5nh7Y8joS3F5trdbNXvnF7Ac4ceAIpVtd5DNZSrMv1G+ /z0WfNaTbLcqjnJsXMgkziib810OJ1qr6RsoDkPtFBuBs0erlM6w53fD9L11adhpoOxW PIH2EJWrxZCSgM8k7Dbad/KKjFLFZjB67y6zN5r7QdGuiUX/kuCozPjLltJ1SBCDEJXc mdEUxzdOkrolJOy2TgrhfeRKovq43Zp536+AZ4WnvzbYHtDskpKYKNKtA7yZD+m19FE2 m53Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlF0OtoqSjMXifJ79K+GrJDpPn664VQ+Ihqdh/PuKx1T1xTKcQ/K W86QTs0oTUY6P6OBYuw+w/KbPRrx/xKnV9bd X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpewCAeGo2JjuOGGLcQjhVo+oJ70bepIOXa4qJh7eDfKKKwhDevJLRktCWNDJUcbVCLFOMYnTg== X-Received: by 2002:a19:1190:: with SMTP id 16-v6mr15841898lfr.122.1533664660465; Tue, 07 Aug 2018 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (adsl-213.91.140.88.tellas.gr. [91.140.88.213]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i2-v6sm332865lji.88.2018.08.07.10.57.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 07 Aug 2018 10:57:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 30 May 2018 15:35:19 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::12d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228299 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Hence my question: how to deal with this? I guess the options are: >> (1) Keep the behavior of these functions the way they are. >> (2) Align the behavior of these functions with what other modes do. > > (3) Keep these *commands* (maybe marking them as obsolete) and add new > *functions* to use in beginning-of-defun-function and > end-of-defun-function FYI bug#32378 proposes a patch touching this area of bibtex.el. https://debbugs.gnu.org/32378 -- Basil