From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFE] Migration to gitlab Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 23:12:08 +0200 Message-ID: <87r296ui8n.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <1552789070.5272.1@yandex.ru> <87imwhmmt8.fsf@gmail.com> <87y347g1l3.fsf@iotcl.com> <9ac21e82-8e47-f9b5-f88d-23c0c56946d1@yandex.ru> <87pnpc1lby.fsf@iotcl.com> <83zhoezdqc.fsf@gnu.org> <87imuivfcr.fsf@iotcl.com> <83k1eyfxls.fsf@gnu.org> <3b8e2195-07c0-a240-6164-8d34bcca344f@yandex.ru> <83ftpmfp0y.fsf@gnu.org> <838svefl3p.fsf@gnu.org> <658fcd11-dfad-2060-c84b-5da938d506b7@yandex.ru> <83woiydorm.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="199636"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 10 23:13:18 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hPCpR-000pkp-D2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 23:13:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPCpQ-0003zN-DE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 17:13:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46384) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPCoZ-0003xP-VJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 17:12:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPCoZ-0002Tu-0i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 17:12:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=50300 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPCoV-0002QC-S1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 17:12:22 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hPCoQ-000oYK-RR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 23:12:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:/H4dj0DzdBac9G908pLOEmwxUKo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236394 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I wonder if I'm the only one here who feels that way. I mean, one of > the more important advantages of Emacs is that it lets you do many > things only tangentially related to editing program sources, and now > we suddenly are willing to give that up? Really?? No, you are not the only one that feels that way. Me too. And Alan... It is possible to use Emacs to write text areas on web pages with an extension. You enter the text area and with a key combination (1) emacsclient is invoked. Those of us that are mouse-averse can use extensions that make possible to click links, buttons, etc using the keyboard, it is much more efficient than the mouse. There are more possibilities to make the web less painful, it is just a matter of installing two or three extensions and that takes no time if someone (2) points you to the right place. That said, the browser experience still lacks conveniences that we take for granted, but also brings possibilities that are far from trivial to implement on a pure Emacs UI, not to mention the backend infraestructure. All things considered, for me, personally, is just bearable. However, there is no doubt that nowadays there is no doubt that a web-based UI is far more friendly and welcoming than something like debbugs. This is something that we should put on the balance. 1. I seem to recall that there are extensions that does the thing automatically, either inconditionally or depending on certain conditions. 2. Me, for example.