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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:240116 Archived-At: >> But after trying I see that pressing the wheel button requires more ef= fort >> and is less reliable since might cause scrolling before pressing > > This is a deficiency of your mouse. Good mice let you middle-click easi= ly > and reliably. Excellent mice have a middle button separate from the whe= el. Yeah, but mice with more buttons grow larger and compete with keyboards by their dimensions :) >> Regarding a keyboard shortcut, do you mean C-w? > > In browsers, yes (sometimes also Ctrl+F4). In Emacs, that would probabl= y > translate to the usual =E2=80=98kill-buffer=E2=80=99 binding the user p= refers. Since C-w can't be used then this is what remains indeed. Fortunately, C-S-t is free to use for tab close undo feature since only C-t is bound to transpose-chars, not C-S-t.