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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
       [not found] ` <20201021103151.E1002209C6@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
@ 2020-10-21 11:34   ` Michael Albinus
  2020-10-21 12:11     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2020-10-21 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen

larsi@gnus.org (Lars Ingebrigtsen) writes:

>  etc/HELLO | 1 +
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>
> --- a/etc/HELLO
> +++ b/etc/HELLO
> +Social Media	👋

??? There is already an entry Emoji.

Best regards, Michael.



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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-21 11:34   ` master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO Michael Albinus
@ 2020-10-21 12:11     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2020-10-21 12:19       ` Michael Albinus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-10-21 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: emacs-devel

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

> ??? There is already an entry Emoji.

Oops; didn't notice it.  I've reverted the patch, but that one should
definitely have a joke.  

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-21 12:11     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-10-21 12:19       ` Michael Albinus
  2020-10-21 12:36         ` Stephen Berman
                           ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2020-10-21 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: emacs-devel

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I've reverted the patch, but that one should definitely have a joke.

Agreed. But I cannot compose one, even a stupid one :-(

Is it possible to tell a whole HELLO story just by emojis? And where is
the Emacs emoji :-) We shall propose!

Best regards, Michael.



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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-21 12:19       ` Michael Albinus
@ 2020-10-21 12:36         ` Stephen Berman
  2020-10-21 12:47           ` Michael Albinus
  2020-10-21 13:06           ` Jean Louis
  2020-10-21 13:00         ` Jean Louis
  2020-10-22  3:55         ` Richard Stallman
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Berman @ 2020-10-21 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, emacs-devel

On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 14:19:32 +0200 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> wrote:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> I've reverted the patch, but that one should definitely have a joke.
>
> Agreed. But I cannot compose one, even a stupid one :-(
>
> Is it possible to tell a whole HELLO story just by emojis?

How about:

👋🗺 or 👋🌐

> And where is the Emacs emoji :-) We shall propose!

How about:

🐃

Steve Berman 😉



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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-21 12:36         ` Stephen Berman
@ 2020-10-21 12:47           ` Michael Albinus
  2020-10-21 13:06           ` Jean Louis
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2020-10-21 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Berman; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, emacs-devel

Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net> writes:

>> Is it possible to tell a whole HELLO story just by emojis?
>
> How about:
>
> 👋🗺 or 👋🌐

Nice! "Hello, world".

I prefer the second version. The first alternative, I read as "Hello, cow".

> How about:
>
> 🐃

Bah. That's a buffalo, not a gnu.

> Steve Berman 😉

Best regards, Michael.



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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-21 12:19       ` Michael Albinus
  2020-10-21 12:36         ` Stephen Berman
@ 2020-10-21 13:00         ` Jean Louis
  2020-10-22  3:55         ` Richard Stallman
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2020-10-21 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, emacs-devel

* Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> [2020-10-21 15:21]:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> 
> > I've reverted the patch, but that one should definitely have a joke.
> 
> Agreed. But I cannot compose one, even a stupid one :-(
> 
> Is it possible to tell a whole HELLO story just by emojis? And where is
> the Emacs emoji :-) We shall propose!

It should be M-x as emoji.



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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-21 12:36         ` Stephen Berman
  2020-10-21 12:47           ` Michael Albinus
@ 2020-10-21 13:06           ` Jean Louis
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Jean Louis @ 2020-10-21 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Berman; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Michael Albinus, emacs-devel

* Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net> [2020-10-21 15:37]:
> How about:
> 
> 👋🗺 or 👋🌐
> 
> > And where is the Emacs emoji :-) We shall propose!
> 
> How about:
> 
> 🐃

It looks nice really, and I see it is buffalo. But OK, something to
swallow. Good for websites and propaganda. Gnu is type of antelope and
is not really large as cow, it is kind of smaller then a donkey.

Buffalo would be offended if it would be represented by gnu, but gnu
should not be if represented by buffalo.



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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-21 12:19       ` Michael Albinus
  2020-10-21 12:36         ` Stephen Berman
  2020-10-21 13:00         ` Jean Louis
@ 2020-10-22  3:55         ` Richard Stallman
  2020-10-22  5:42           ` 陈志伟
  2020-10-22  6:39           ` Kai Ma
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2020-10-22  3:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: larsi, emacs-devel

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

I have rarely seen emojis -- they appear as diamonds in my Emacs on a
tty -- but my understanding is that it isn't feasible for us to define
our own.  So I think there is no way to make a GNU emoji, and no way to
tell a story about GNU with emojis.

Is it possible to express the idea of "Hello" with emojis?


-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)





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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-22  3:55         ` Richard Stallman
@ 2020-10-22  5:42           ` 陈志伟
  2020-10-22  6:39           ` Kai Ma
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: 陈志伟 @ 2020-10-22  5:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rms@gnu.org; +Cc: larsi@gnus.org, Michael Albinus, emacs-devel@gnu.org

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On Oct 22, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org<mailto:rms@gnu.org>> wrote:

Is it possible to express the idea of "Hello" with emojis?

The waving hand means “Hello” I thought. See https://emojipedia.org/waving-hand/

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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-22  3:55         ` Richard Stallman
  2020-10-22  5:42           ` 陈志伟
@ 2020-10-22  6:39           ` Kai Ma
  2020-10-22 15:52             ` Yuan Fu
  2020-10-23  3:44             ` Richard Stallman
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Kai Ma @ 2020-10-22  6:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rms, Michael Albinus; +Cc: larsi, emacs-devel

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> I have rarely seen emojis -- they appear as diamonds in my Emacs on a
> tty -- but my understanding is that it isn't feasible for us to define
> our own.  So I think there is no way to make a GNU emoji, and no way to
> tell a story about GNU with emojis.

FYI, the Unicode Consortium has been accepting emoji proposals [1]. You
can submit a proposal about GNU to them.

[1] https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html




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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-22  6:39           ` Kai Ma
@ 2020-10-22 15:52             ` Yuan Fu
  2020-10-22 16:00               ` Robert Pluim
  2020-10-22 16:04               ` Drew Adams
  2020-10-23  3:44             ` Richard Stallman
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Yuan Fu @ 2020-10-22 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kai Ma; +Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Michael Albinus, Richard Stallman, emacs-devel

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> On Oct 22, 2020, at 2:39 AM, Kai Ma <ksqsf@mail.ustc.edu.cn> wrote:
> 
> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>> I have rarely seen emojis -- they appear as diamonds in my Emacs on a
>> tty -- but my understanding is that it isn't feasible for us to define
>> our own.  So I think there is no way to make a GNU emoji, and no way to
>> tell a story about GNU with emojis.
> 
> FYI, the Unicode Consortium has been accepting emoji proposals [1]. You
> can submit a proposal about GNU to them.
> 
> [1] https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html
> 
> 

They have accepted so many absurd proposals, surely a GNU one wouldn’t harm. They added Flamingo, Sloth, Otter, Orangutan in 2019. Maybe FSF people can propose one that tells FSF and GNU stories?

Yuan

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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-22 15:52             ` Yuan Fu
@ 2020-10-22 16:00               ` Robert Pluim
  2020-10-23  3:48                 ` Richard Stallman
  2020-10-22 16:04               ` Drew Adams
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2020-10-22 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yuan Fu
  Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, emacs-devel, Michael Albinus, Richard Stallman,
	Kai Ma

>>>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:52:14 -0400, Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> said:

    >> On Oct 22, 2020, at 2:39 AM, Kai Ma <ksqsf@mail.ustc.edu.cn> wrote:
    >> 
    >> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
    >>> I have rarely seen emojis -- they appear as diamonds in my Emacs on a
    >>> tty -- but my understanding is that it isn't feasible for us to define
    >>> our own.  So I think there is no way to make a GNU emoji, and no way to
    >>> tell a story about GNU with emojis.
    >> 
    >> FYI, the Unicode Consortium has been accepting emoji proposals [1]. You
    >> can submit a proposal about GNU to them.
    >> 
    >> [1] https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html
    >> 
    >> 

    Yuan> They have accepted so many absurd proposals, surely a GNU one wouldn’t
    Yuan> harm. They added Flamingo, Sloth, Otter, Orangutan in 2019. Maybe FSF
    Yuan> people can propose one that tells FSF and GNU stories?

If weʼre going to propose a GNU, surely we should propose a Saint
iGNUcious as well?

Robert
-- 



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* RE: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-22 15:52             ` Yuan Fu
  2020-10-22 16:00               ` Robert Pluim
@ 2020-10-22 16:04               ` Drew Adams
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2020-10-22 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yuan Fu, Kai Ma
  Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen, Michael Albinus, Richard Stallman, emacs-devel

> They have accepted so many absurd proposals, surely a GNU one wouldn’t harm. They added Flamingo, Sloth, Otter, Orangutan in 2019. Maybe FSF people can propose one that tells FSF and GNU stories?

At least a gnu, perhaps.



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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-22  6:39           ` Kai Ma
  2020-10-22 15:52             ` Yuan Fu
@ 2020-10-23  3:44             ` Richard Stallman
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2020-10-23  3:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kai Ma; +Cc: larsi, michael.albinus, emacs-devel

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > FYI, the Unicode Consortium has been accepting emoji proposals [1]. You
  > can submit a proposal about GNU to them.

  > [1] https://unicode.org/emoji/proposals.html

If someone wants to do this, please write to me off the list.
Please first check what is actually required, to make sure it
isn't so much that you would give up instead.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)





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* Re: master a1fcdee: Add emoji to etc/HELLO
  2020-10-22 16:00               ` Robert Pluim
@ 2020-10-23  3:48                 ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2020-10-23  3:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: casouri, ksqsf, michael.albinus, larsi, emacs-devel

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > If weʼre going to propose a GNU, surely we should propose a Saint
  > iGNUcious as well?

Is it possible to draw an emoji that distinguishes Saint iGNUcius from
a generic saint?  I have no skill at drawing, so I would hesitate
to declare it is impossible.  But I doubt it is possible.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)





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