From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Run (some) tests more automagically? Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 08:48:17 -0500 Message-ID: <87r1l9cz1a.fsf@dick> References: <87v9alk0xi.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16864"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 21 14:49:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDp6p-0004Ie-Jk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 14:49:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58516 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDp6o-0001l1-L1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 08:49:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDp5x-0001Ir-TE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 08:48:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qk1-x72c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c]:46792) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDp5w-0007h4-9N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 08:48:21 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qk1-x72c.google.com with SMTP id w19so10144161qki.13 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 05:48:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=/HHr2GdfbOEGYeu+tItpUMKZpJbA743W8qoqNGEkKnw=; b=WdxQFfcbq7SAw+mTCNfn5jPRmLLJfPLGGRbYGntvQs0APwAaaJWXU//iLknCs9XtUR dI99Sx0Zb1XZsobw2Efc4fImePLA9RA0vZwAoWu9K01vOr5zVGUlRoRgHOooeQpHm8fY vKEaxstrM/d99JwxBFyhIiO6rVo9smbylFv8jnDzAvnjMlWFpmKdH7mWugQkPXXRRJv/ FpufuTciafTPtHfdGMwuSDP8uuzTvKYxm4FoKuhl+n+5xciwNoZs2GxHVzQbKPtaOlw7 HDoV4/l4p8FzWcwjtqD+B1dsHiVPO2vd87N8454GCUrhEOVPF3BzLM8t/teT85Lmvu1T w5KA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=/HHr2GdfbOEGYeu+tItpUMKZpJbA743W8qoqNGEkKnw=; b=PV0op+w2HS13phD7jdAhoR/AridbBqXy2y0tldq8kwD/Ua+yAs7cmb9KZBc0HVYhin ko/ZYpmwwvv5FlxPx4UqT5UnJ0PrzY3fDbXLD+zU59UYsSFHL/rokatnGm+9IwVGB25+ oYS8F16RBZZBOEWDcHCcNNofi0X4n2wRAM5oZXDnn2mZW5jeMaacW777TvO9xGmMqTHR eoHadh+2ycGy0ocwx8CUToBe9lx080xz9lVnKovLHnAE1l4cRNkp6KGiYBVhGm1kgfaN s1mqZRhn51BSX3BIKMdFEBrsFBextsF62pDiM1magqvP5Jm6X1kPocPQbzgsZwF9aAEd KmFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532AyPKiYDY31ydewMAceq+Xh5Wu91Hvakpnlozt9exNl1uZI7DA HtZ8dGwjkxEz1yJ93q/S9fTp2XvC1ho= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxWayUD3oSgYx/qFnGrQhykO73Gjld3u0EewN64rHncVbqP4bfkrfkvEwcGtMWSBKmzxhm59A== X-Received: by 2002:a37:4e04:: with SMTP id c4mr17514398qkb.340.1613915298641; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 05:48:18 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (pool-71-190-212-171.nycmny.fios.verizon.net. [71.190.212.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x33sm3535310qth.57.2021.02.21.05.48.17 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 21 Feb 2021 05:48:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87v9alk0xi.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 21 Feb 2021 14:25:29 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c; envelope-from=dick.r.chiang@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk1-x72c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 4 X-Spam_score: 0.4 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, MALFORMED_FREEMAIL=1.49, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265386 Archived-At: Triggering tests on baseline `make` is antithetical to the fifty-years of make "common-law." That contributors continue to submit patches without running `make check` or `make check-maybe` is unavoidable, but that maintainers merge those patches without running same is a little strange. Of course, this all goes away with so-called "CICD" pipelines, the FSF-sanctioned equivalent being something called "emba," the efficacy of which remains dubious.