From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: haj@posteo.de (Harald =?utf-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Handling extensions of programming languages (Perl) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:31:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87r1k7q92b.fsf@hajtower> References: <87o8ff560t.fsf@hajtower> <87im5lhi6i.fsf@rfc20.org> <87r1k94cnx.fsf@hajtower> <20a4ef1c-beaf-1d63-b984-12be9a856c86@gmail.com> <87h7l43fa1.fsf@hajtower> <87blbc33tm.fsf@hajtower> <878s6fs2kq.fsf_-_@hajtower> <87y2efqek7.fsf@hajtower> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18672"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 20:33:43 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQJ4-0004kX-R5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:33:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46894 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQJ3-0004WW-Nd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:33:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48606) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQHE-0003Ln-CU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:31:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:50959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOQHA-0001mH-2N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:31:46 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37445160062 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:31:41 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1616441501; bh=v80RPJjOCCQZJ19asDJZAQjXfCUMe8+jYE2mywlPjo8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=ebElHYXI+HBDlLtwn852FfWGPOiB1qRbGrTI6bjK5r3WHyrHR3IhisMe2IL5r62tK QTWJChO0NIM7ExOui2QoHBLf0Eyu/VqT4PMXratwG2a7yG4zPp/IFFr3my2tSm7wBy lgXl8xFs+mctXUSkY2SmZKkMk2t9rbDHS+D+i7/b14N8TAvfDP0RgzFWSPb5nNGB9j hs99eL1b0TaX7J/jaK0D3iCb3rXCMO/yqVXo3syPCvLYhYbMZiYi2Ys5mockw6h4tC e6vof8CFn1pbpKXcLZeb4jRizFixjUxoPJUbG5CTOl3x5dRJIgSoQ5v5jNH8DQfYew 6qf8wknVpUADA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4F44PS344vz6tmN; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:31:40 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:27:41 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=haj@posteo.de; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266802 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > [...] > I don't see any problem with a :core `cperl-mode` package which comes > bundled with its own version of `perl-mode.el` (nor would I find it > problematic to export `perl-mode.el` into its own :core GNU ELPA > package). That's great! So that should be an issue at all. I've yet to get familiar with the procedures around GNU ELPA. >> That was my first thought as well. But then, the declarators appear in >> places where other languages have their types. > > [ I think you use a very restricted definition of "other languages" here. > It's definitely not the case for most of the statically typed languages > I've used, except for C. > I'm thinking of OCaml, SML, Haskell, Agda, Coq, Modula-2, Pascal, Ada, ... ] Guilty, your honor. In the last years I've dealt with Emacs Lisp (only very recently), Perl, C, Java, JavaScript ... and before that with a dialect of PL/1, assembly languages (68000, x86, /390) ... and before that with FORTRAN, where everyone's type system seemed to be IMPLICIT INTEGER I-N. So indeed, almost no intersection with your list. -- Cheers, haj