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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Improve `replace-regexp-in-string' ergonomics?
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 22:18:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r1dgtlcy.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d90a3119-a6e0-4613-92b5-c807d78ec3bf@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:59:54 +0300")

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:

> This way makes it impossible to use any optional arguments, right?

Indeed.

> But if we target thread-first instead and make the new function accept
> STRING in the first position, all optional arguments would be still
> available.

Yes, I've always found it weird that these functions have the object to
be worked upon as the last non-optional parameter.  I had to look it up
for years when using `replace-regexp-in-string'.  And it didn't help
that Emacs took this function from XEmacs, which had the string in a
different position...  But I don't remember where...

*Lars says "apt install xemacs21"*

I misremembered:

`replace-in-string' is a compiled Lisp function 
  -- loaded from "/build/xemacs21-rcHAYB/xemacs21-21.4.24/lisp/subr.elc" 
(replace-in-string STR REGEXP NEWTEXT &optional LITERAL) 

So it has the placement of STRING that seems logical, I think.

On the other hand, changing the placement in a new function like this
will probably be even more confusing.

>> 		(regexp-replace "'" "\""
>> 				",[[:space:]]" " "
>> 				"\\]" ")"
>> 				"\\[" "("
>> 				results)))
>> Or some variation thereupon with some more ()s to group pairs.
>
> I'm not sure how to also make it accept "normal" convention, and we
> probably don't want to always have to wrap the args in an alist, even
> when only one replacement is needed.

No, that's the problem.  We could hack it up by doing a &rest in
reality, and then checking if the first parameter is a list, but yuck.

>>      (setq author (regexp-remove "[ \t]*[(<].*$" author))
>>      (setq author (regexp-remove "\\`[ \t]+" author))
>>      (setq author (regexp-remove "[ \t]+$" author))
>>      (setq author (regexp-replace "[ \t]+" " " author))
>
> IDK, if that leads to no increase in efficiency, then probably not?
> Replacing with "" is an established pattern by now.

It helps with readability -- the function says what the intention is.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-22 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-22  4:36 Improve `replace-regexp-in-string' ergonomics? Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-22  5:22 ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-22  6:36   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-22  7:47   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2021-09-22  5:24 ` Po Lu
2021-09-22  6:37   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-22 10:56     ` Po Lu
2021-09-22 20:08       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-23  0:11         ` Po Lu
2021-09-22  7:33 ` Adam Porter
2021-09-22  8:09   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-22  7:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-09-22  8:14 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-22  8:21   ` Adam Porter
2021-09-22 18:01     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-22 18:24       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-09-22 22:56       ` Adam Porter
2021-09-22 23:53         ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-22 20:06   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-22 10:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-22 20:18   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2021-09-22 22:23     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-22 23:24       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-22 18:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-22 19:30   ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-09-22 20:22   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-22 20:29     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-23  2:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-05 16:18 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-12  6:53   ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-12 12:10     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 12:34       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-12 12:41         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 13:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 13:32             ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-10-12 15:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-12 13:33           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2021-10-12 19:16             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-12 20:44               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2021-10-13  7:57                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-13  8:41                   ` Thierry Volpiatto

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