From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proportional fonts in the mode line (one month test) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:28:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87r1b4e54y.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87h7c1u0cg.fsf@gnus.org> <87fsrl2ilj.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25429"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 25 14:29:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEof-0006Si-IU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:29:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53994 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEod-000487-Og for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:29:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39298) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEnk-0002m9-Da for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:28:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=58068 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEni-0000Uq-Fh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:28:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=S/yz45GZf/0z6Z/HbRMZ9JmNr/AFz4UxtFlFj+TvE3c=; b=oq1Q6YLIpOLyC2GAlSOY+SFG05 EluwxBTQ6qZo9kZkWZ2V0rcbedSrqWJizBwY9cELJlW6FzOh14bmqN5A+cpyZLeSQBwkui1Z1Eo7u GwBM977hntD6L2gl/57Xo1LRbM7g2zicl9EiFWtbuvXPiOlv9qpbCw1f6gATQgEdEQH0=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mqEnd-0003px-LT; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:28:32 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEUECRYkP1l5orj/ //+sHS1BAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+ULGQw7GPZYh58AAAFeSURBVCjPZdFBa8IwFAfw F9GCnjy0gv0Ag+1TZKDCPD0lCWvPrcx8CtlhsJsFI8zTDq0s+ZR7SaMM9i7tj4THe//AFGLV7QTu VYskfBkKgO7UI4NkAebE/P+wAnYC1WPUcHiD5DTwmCmDexj0yEtnNCSH0ODJUd2g/2N2CBO4iHEP ZTXow9wP42wmc2b5a0D3nOal5RVh4My1LqzmSEjci+6c2fewY2q+rBjvMdF21WNiITm7SwoeeQuz TtuIb9pNWwwoj8A2TkagRxGusYL6rwzBJyClgHUjQ5qTL23wERcpUDo5LdNZoOMbuo3rYTUBTUTu mk7s2pBam8nGoN6HPAU1l0IV4QkwkyhRlQFSMK64WvvRRjQaYfuBEZiJ7XsE4LzbnU14UIDpw8/1 0/kVfHa7YrN0/l4V+kOqeQCFlEllIxDySx0BAmarbO9B+9L+w0xF+EJ2vIPBHwBnx19TzH+DE4Aj WAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0xMS0yNVQxMjo1OToyNCswMDowMMEvBCYAAAAldEVY dGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMTEtMjVUMTI6NTk6MjQrMDA6MDCwcryaAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Namasenda's _Unlimited Ammo - Infinity_: "Finish Him (Feat. Joey LaBeija)" In-Reply-To: <87fsrl2ilj.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Thu, 25 Nov 2021 08:18:32 +0800") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280115 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > There must be a better way to achieve this than modifying the > `mode-line' face. We could probably set the face separately for > individual parts of `mode-line-format'. > > Many external packages depend on a fixed pitch `mode-line' face. It > would be good to not change this default. Well, that's up to the package authors to decide. > Also, please don't change the header line as well. For instance, the > header line in calc that reads "---- Emacs Calculator Mode ----" is now > totally broken. Right, like Juri said: (defface header-line '((default :inherit mode-line) I wasn't aware of that, and I think the right fix here is to remove this inheritance -- I don't see any good reason to have this coupling between the mode line and the header lines. Any opinions? >> This is just a test: If everybody hates this default, we won't >> proceed, > > This wording is shocking! Does it mean that we will proceed with this > default if even one person likes it? Sometimes you don't have to use predicate logic on natural language. So: No. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no