From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling native compilation by default when libgccjit is present Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 06:09:33 +0100 Message-ID: <87r1arskmq.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83wnkm94oq.fsf@gnu.org> <87y251vdeh.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf11tlzf.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1atrsp9.fsf@gnus.org> <8735n85fa5.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31701"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, akrl@sdf.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 05 06:10:37 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjnJ-00083Q-DZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 06:10:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36520 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjnH-0008Ns-LM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:10:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjmS-0007jH-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:09:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=35732 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjmQ-0003fN-IN; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:09:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=YIqmV42zA5OqWNUnSSnrcBmg3KP/b3LqPHnMFtGm9kk=; b=pEBzXxHIPb02hz1Toyg2tp+Umt nz2Ds/zOYyycYDWouX38ShrAXeLt410aA9STiGyn1KnNVeWyQLl0hrWL3p/3XGbN+vETZ/dT51L4R 0/V9El0pIrdJgma/Om635s4l0v9fqfWK1mjTBu7Rrj6l5Qw2EFD3QIyzDdyU4V4EaXAw=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mtjmJ-0004SS-6e; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 06:09:37 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEUaFBRbPTSTZEq+ n4b///9UFFcIAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+UMBQUHNv5D/BcAAAGvSURBVDjLpVQJbsQw CDTZDwD7gYA/0MD//9bBdg5VrVqpKNrEDOeAtzVu3wvt3ykFP/wTsD7rIcg8+hdDaguQdYaG14ub nG6/CwnkrgWH9RJRt3miCxh6xqfIw4NlCruLXsFILnln+iPNDXQAPAxvDy3bLKCdtU19COIPgPQJ 9ENMLTOEtyaPQg93ay6dUdle0RegFcU274p4SEN2Aig0gzLUtYC2PNReBXBHCe8oYFJCwupIX42b ik6AHISYehqyoxdVnVtAxtRT0QHMUZt1rwoBcNugxYMEaoxGJwABRYa8iGfcXAHsY7goP8CfywBK D17GqoAprbzQCJXe5za5Rw8PK1sTqwGzVFWeABCmvEKO6re4gm/CnkB3TaTbCIlkFMjdA4xuiIP6 ECkFK0qIEl4fVKqEA9gBLZTotx9jp6HrGHLIBGCf+yQUA4HXcQNyzItCmFTx4FUVWLJ3AftMWEUW WQT2ND/WnSimok/AUHCeywd+/UCIsXFbWlyLrGgvFoBgHzdARdha+ZQLQP8+mJ6DelwjVtOYt4fb +9aT1NDXtWqvx3/AeSP+em//JZ+t20YWgZsQdAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0xMi0w NVQwNTowNzo1NCswMDowMDNiYI4AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMTItMDVUMDU6MDc6 NTQrMDA6MDBCP9gyAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Kraftwerk's _Trans-Europe Express_: "Trans-Europe Express" In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:04:15 -0500") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280956 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I think that native compilation is too new to enable by default. > There is no rush about this. > > Let's release Emacs 28 with it disabled by default. That will give us > a year or two to (1) make it really reliable and (2) let users decide > which they prefer. We're not discussing the defaults in Emacs 28, but on master. Most distributions will probably release Emacs 28.1 with native compilation switched on. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no