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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280958 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> I think that native compilation is too new to enable by default. >> There is no rush about this. >> >> Let's release Emacs 28 with it disabled by default. That will give us >> a year or two to (1) make it really reliable and (2) let users decide >> which they prefer. > > We're not discussing the defaults in Emacs 28, but on master. Please give it a while before making that change. I have the libgccjit development packages installed, so changing my muscle memory to type `./configure --without-native-compilation' whenever I want to build Emacs (for testing purposes, for instance) would be quite difficult. I think that applies to many other people as well. > Most distributions will probably release Emacs 28.1 with native > compilation switched on. Why is that so? Most distributions only build their Emacs packages with the default options.