From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sqlite3 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 07:55:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87r1am8dxr.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <87tufmjyai.fsf@gnus.org> <877dcil2sj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czm98qi1.fsf@gnu.org> <87o85tcwm0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874k7ljwkr.fsf@gnus.org> <87fsr5cuzq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878rwx8mdn.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1aphuei.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39349"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:q6SQbOljPusCmpyIVev975nYrUQ= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 09 07:56:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mvDMO-000A2o-Nd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 07:56:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35490 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvDMN-0000kt-19 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:56:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56104) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvDLN-0008Hn-0f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:55:53 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:59610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvDLL-0003UT-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:55:52 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mvDLJ-0008kd-UJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 07:55:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281442 Archived-At: Daniel Fleischer writes: > Pip Cet [2021-12-08 Wed 18:36] wrote: > >> The proposal is to have Emacs store some user data in some binary >> format that cannot be readily inspected, diffed, backed up, >> version-controlled, shared, altered, or understood. (Or archived, >> published, indexed, checksummed, ...) > > It's a binary file, sure, but what exactly prevents your from backing it > up? or putting it under git, sharing it, calculating its checksum or > exploring it via a free tool such as sqlite-browser? Of course you can do all of the above, but keep in mind that adding, deleting or editing a row can have arbitrarily large effects on the binary representation of the database. And having to install an specific tool just to "explore" the database's contents (read: have access within the tool's constraints) doesn't look like very enticing perspective to me. So you can do with a database a lot of things we usually do with text files, but "readily" does not apply.