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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291013 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: >> >> Alan's claim was 785 additional key bindings, many of which not >> >> bound to C-c. > > It wasn't a "claim" it was a statement of fact. These 784 bindings are > DOCUMENTED in org.info. You attempted to explain it away by saying, at > first vaguely, that not all of them "come into play". Only later did you > make that meaningful by saying that not all of them get loaded at any > time. > > Many of these binding are not bound to C-c C- or other major mode > sequences. Please note that not only C-c C- are dedicated to major modes. Also, C-c (though not all C-c are recommended). I vent through all the bindings we define in the manual and the only bindings that do not use reserved major-mode bindings space are: C-' C-, - - Out of the above bindings only C-S-/ override the default bindings. But only when shift-select-mode is enabled (which had not been the default when these Org bindings were introduced). Other bindings might cause unexpected behavior when user has personal bindings. However, please note that Emacs recommends binding C-c for user space. Anything else is a "gray" zone. Best, Ihor