From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Visuwesh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 86dc875bf5 2/2: Make browse-url.el support for plain "mozilla" obsolete Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 18:48:27 +0530 Message-ID: <87r12tayxo.fsf@gmail.com> References: <165745105026.27759.9441332441113751538@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220710110410.B69E0C0D79B@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87k08l19m6.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25957"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Po Lu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 10 15:27:14 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWxu-0006el-5R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 15:27:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35584 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWxt-0000nk-0y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 09:27:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50618) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWpb-00068m-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 09:18:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-x541.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::541]:42723) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oAWpa-0005nf-7u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 09:18:39 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-x541.google.com with SMTP id o18so2672911pgu.9 for ; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 06:18:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=evwSlw5GNi9GvTfBvSzeUM3yT/foHvHe4mV7K+Qu5d4=; b=S7bfG6SuxTpZoLp/9g82NvcdJWqVg5VWarqv3o2nuHL0BVLPjwaTBjsbAVGZx2Vjq0 F0SVtpLbDU6zzvm8q3L5RWSQYTDbufOAUpLSYDwRMmuewrUOf6jqSiOwH5O7RZhpXWL+ CHJm5NzjUo34Y/3hTbPx1S0gAp/XYfG383HulxTgVqE2uSif1Q6eMMMYK6SBiV2HEM6G FPi+0ez85pvaSa41gsxGO4MqjAnTKYtq1Jr2nYFUHvt9n8t7tThST1TyJm6OvSnBBNKh YGVekjlmjPuvHp/ePGlf1e2j2QRCtQMSL/RZwQgrsHLqjtDzAUJYBHU+iXW69aYq7CqQ /3XA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=evwSlw5GNi9GvTfBvSzeUM3yT/foHvHe4mV7K+Qu5d4=; b=aM9itX7GMrM/s0b5IU+zRJVXyISh2XdHYpMT0gSmOOb/KX1ryvUZsznvMoIFEVUKBb 8JGdNwiEu1CbKi9qJZyKZtBZAy9L6pSCuLIvmvAHOQhBQrozSaXuagv8DicKGXFf/AU1 FfoKomkuf9kfoe3/gT4AOe45xh9yVHNvAuxr1SR0icuRhZU3YtP20Mf9uMWiugyJxm8l mwzRMPT3fWLIMQck6meKuCJcXJL595GG86h8yW6nCmNJ/huq5sMEMPiX8bWEJMhOjiVQ TqqBhljsI2DdbUhrrOwAgl6PEUlA4gmsarwaZieJ9Kn/1klyagH+x1x6RttObmogP8Dk MsPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora+G0Z08LWllSN2XXxUS0Ej5pszYwG8klFaM0Kxi2TsqbT8AeqWk /DHt7CGDbTf9t2PWeIV0960= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1vg+VZREZxT8QH0YAdEfib636ksYiRsoxXQEPkgeS7OiJCaNMxbu+g6cfFWWMD3E858wYxnWQ== X-Received: by 2002:a63:150f:0:b0:414:1a88:3b94 with SMTP id v15-20020a63150f000000b004141a883b94mr11335222pgl.426.1657459116227; Sun, 10 Jul 2022 06:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([49.205.87.212]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u18-20020a17090a891200b001ef87123615sm2762636pjn.37.2022.07.10.06.18.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 10 Jul 2022 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sun, 10 Jul 2022 06:05:44 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::541; envelope-from=visuweshm@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x541.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 09:25:12 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292015 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=9E=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=B1=E0=AF=81 =E0=AE=9C=E0=AF=82= =E0=AE=B2=E0=AF=88 10, 2022] Stefan Kangas wrote: > Po Lu writes: > >> IIRC this is used for SeaMonkey as well, which is still actively >> developed and used. But I'm not sure. > > The SeaMonkey binary is called "seamonkey", so even that won't work > OOTB. > > If we want to follow the browse-url historical "tradition", we should > add variables for "seamonkey"... but I'm not sure adding variables for > every little web browser out there is a very great idea. (See also the > TODO item about cleaning this all up.) > > IMHO, it should be enough to provide facilities for the main web > browsers (and those important to the free software mission) and then > defer to e.g. XDG. So I'd recommend SeaMonkey users to use something > like: > > xdg-settings set default-web-browser seamonkey.desktop IMVHO, XDG (and Gtk for that matter) can be annoyingly hard to understand and set-up. I spent an overall ~2 hours this week trying to get XDG (and dconf) working the way I want it to [*]. If Emacs does not rely on XDG but supports them "natively", I would be grateful as it means I do not have to put up with the whims of XDG et al. Just my two cents. --- [*] More details: Debian decided to install xdg-desktop-portal by itself and set it up. This meant that the file picker in Chromium would not pick up my bookmarks or my XDG environmental variables. Getting the WM_CLASS atom of the file picker gave the clue not searching for something like "gtk file picker does not respect bookmarks". In the same vein, I had no idea why dconf did not save the settings I set via gsettings, dconf, dconf-editor. It started saving the settings once I deleted the dconf directory in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME. Since almost every search engine seems to give poor results, I have a very hard time fixing these little annoyances. I, at least, want Emacs to do exactly what I say, not someone else's whim. =20