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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ec29912fd6463786571fe7fbb068d780; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 13:45:01 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <7263e075-429e-596f-f97d-47988b362e31@johnhaman.org> (John Haman's message of "Wed, 12 Oct 2022 08:37:56 -0400") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20740 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.189.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297609 Archived-At: John Haman writes: > I noticed while browsing the Emacs manuals on my mobile phone that the > accessibility is very poor. The text is very small which makes it hard > to read without zooming and scrolling. > > The layout of the texinfo html is classic, but would the community > would be open to making the docs more readable on small devices? (like > mobile phones and tablets) > > I'm not a web developer, but I believe the solution would involve some > improvements to the CSS of the documentation to add word-wrapping and > maybe increase the font size. > > I'm happy to help. AFAIU that means you somehow landed on an outdated page, since the latest ones have been generated to work well on mobile browsers as well. At least that's the conclusion last bug report about this led to. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.