From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeremy Bryant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: discoverability, better defaults and which-key in Emacs Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 22:24:35 +0000 Message-ID: <87r0hvvn3x.fsf@jeremybryant.net> References: <874jetaxri.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86fryc1vsh.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5383"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , justin@burkett.cc, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: orzodk Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 01 23:26:01 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rVfVR-00018z-Ba for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 23:26:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rVfUi-0002LY-Pt; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 17:25:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rVfUh-0002Kh-0Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 17:25:15 -0500 Original-Received: from out-176.mta0.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:1004:224b::b0]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rVfUf-0007rM-6v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Feb 2024 17:25:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jeremybryant.net; s=key1; t=1706826309; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=rjWdVOq76/xLvvPBv3xQWxbBmDuwkvkXbcpDbu6xi2U=; b=PdhL4GZyoAFccpyb76gm+961x7SRBPF7zmryLY5XDFLU3QZoOVkUHKgQ2PyNeECqA45vPM EqmmcrwPy1XASREgTJQF/iyyHQXpVfRQb9P/Kj9MBMxvgiVKowOY+Zk8uB5LFuN5c9SWP6 I104kCRJ6fNncH1T7qsk2RRB53sMqR4lGxf0w2DgJRgoJRMRcTz+xAVZ3jujU4/K3qFPA1 4zKeu2FOCFIrhyAoTfLyJ0e1cxtB5RjG02OpuoMT3MLTtr4Exs8Bqgcz5a9XYxxab8Pbca lzOIgO0kntNIanzdB54LgU9QbGfCaXdufv8eOLI99y4L02jgOWWv2biPjNG6SQ== X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. In-reply-to: X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:41d0:1004:224b::b0; envelope-from=jb@jeremybryant.net; helo=out-176.mta0.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315722 Archived-At: >> >> How do we detect "new users"? > > As a new user, I ran through help-with-tutorial early on. Maybe adding a > note or suggestion somewhere there is good enough. Do you mean the TUTORIAL accessible through C-h t?