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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322826 Archived-At: Pip Cet writes: > So, even if the decision is to keep pure space, can we at least make > pure space overflow a fatal condition? Can't pure space be eliminated without affecting unexec? It's not as though every Lisp object in a dumped Emacs must be pure, and eliminating read only objects would be a welcome change whether by itself or for unexec builds.