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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Tony Zorman <tonyzorman@mailbox.org>
Cc: "Martin Edström" <meedstrom@runbox.eu>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Reconsider defaults for use-package-vc-prefer-newest
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2024 14:44:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r09dhxs1.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875xqqly63.fsf@hyperspace> (Tony Zorman's message of "Fri, 20 Sep 2024 06:57:40 +0200")

Tony Zorman <tonyzorman@mailbox.org> writes:

>>> PROBLEM 1. MISMATCH WITH PACKAGE-VC
>>>
>>> Now use-package :vc is not in line with the behavior of the
>>> package-vc-install command, which fetches the newest commit.
>>>
>>> All other package managers I know of also fetch the newest commit.
>>
>> The main reference is package.el, which by default uses GNU ELPA and
>> NonGNU ELPA.  Both distribute explicitly released packages, as indicated
>> by the version header.  To me this has a much greater weight than what
>> third-party package managers and archives decide to do.
>
> I will say that I also find it surprising behaviour that, by default,
>
>     (package-vc-install "«URL»")
>
> and
>
>     (use-package blah
>       :vc (:url "«URL»"))
>
> have different semantics.

One idea I had we that we could require :vc to take a :rev argument.
But if it really is the case that we haven't found the right solution,
perhaps we should remove the keyword from the next release, or at least
mark it as some kind of an experimental feature?

-- 
	Philip Kaludercic on icterid



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-21 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-14 12:09 Reconsider defaults for use-package-vc-prefer-newest Martin Edström
2024-09-19 11:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-19 18:50   ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-19 20:11     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-19 20:31       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20  6:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 15:14           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 15:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 16:56               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 17:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 20:43               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21  7:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-21 14:31                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 15:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-21 15:43                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-19 21:02       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-20 20:34         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 23:38           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-21  7:06             ` chad
2024-09-21 14:27               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-21 15:59             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 19:04               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-22 15:30                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-22 20:08                   ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-25 12:06                     ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-25 13:15                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 12:07                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 15:15                       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-25 20:11                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-25 20:48                           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-29  2:13                           ` Richard Stallman
2024-09-29  7:25                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-29 13:55                               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-26 23:23                     ` Charles Choi
2024-09-27  0:17                       ` Adam Porter
2024-09-27  0:33                       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-27  6:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-29 14:22                         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-29 14:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20  4:57   ` Tony Zorman
2024-09-20 19:37     ` Martin Edström
2024-09-20 21:05       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-21 14:44     ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2024-09-21 14:58       ` Tony Zorman
2024-09-21 15:10       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-21 16:09         ` Philip Kaludercic
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-15 17:38 Martin Edström
2024-09-15 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-15 19:46   ` Martin Edstrom
2024-09-16 11:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 15:24       ` Martin Edström
2024-09-16 16:15       ` Martin Edström
2024-09-16 17:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-18 14:30           ` Martin Edström
2024-09-15 19:52 Martin Edström
2024-09-15 20:41 ` chad
2024-09-15 21:09   ` Martin Edstrom
2024-09-15 22:12     ` chad
2024-09-15 23:51       ` Martin Edstrom
2024-09-16 11:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 16:46       ` Martin Edström
2024-09-16 18:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 20:16       ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-17 11:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19  3:38           ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-19  6:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 12:08               ` Suhail Singh
2024-09-19 12:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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