From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp and Guile Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:01:33 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87ptwq7qyq.fsf@emacswiki.org> References: <200207200035.g6K0ZAb27891@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207212015.g6LKF4c00874@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207251807.g6PI75d07615@aztec.santafe.edu> <874renlito.fsf@zagadka.ping.de> <200207271853.g6RIre710837@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207310554.g6V5ssc16508@aztec.santafe.edu> <200208022214.g72MELZ01879@aztec.santafe.edu> <200208042325.g74NPtM03391@aztec.santafe.edu> <20020810001749.695883.FMU31823@piglet.prv.splode.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028988027 12759 127.0.0.1 (10 Aug 2002 14:00:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17dWn4-0003Jg-00 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:00:26 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17dXA9-0006Oh-00 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:24:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17dWno-0007XK-00; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:01:12 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17dWnB-0007Wb-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:00:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17dWnA-0007WP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:00:33 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.cablecom.net ([62.2.33.102]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17dWn9-0007Vv-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.swissonline.ch (mail-4.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.85]) by relay02.cablecom.net (8.11.6/8.11.4/SOL/AWF/MXRELAY/06072001) with ESMTP id g7AE0TZ49060 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:00:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from confusibombus (dclient217-162-239-43.hispeed.ch [217.162.239.43]) by smtp.swissonline.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6/SMTPSOL/AWF/2002040101) with ESMTP id g7AE0TH16296 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:00:29 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from alex by confusibombus with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17dWo9-0000Pj-00 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:01:33 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Face: ^BC$`[IcggstLPyen&dqF+b2'zyK#r.mU*'Nms}@&4zw%SJ#5!/7SMVjBS7'lb;QK)|IPU5U'o1'522W4TyzB3Ab*IBo^iw]l4|kUbdZuUDO6=Um-.4IzhNiV'B"@K#jy_(wW|Zbk[34flKY^|PrQ?$u2\fKg^]AY>wOX#H32i In-Reply-To: <20020810001749.695883.FMU31823@piglet.prv.splode.com> (Noah Friedman's message of "Sat, 10 Aug 2002 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT)") Original-Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2.90 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6418 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6418 Noah Friedman writes: > What exactly is anyone gaining by this? Could someone explain to me why > effort should be expended on it at all? I like the approch take by pymac -- those who want to write extensions in Python can now do this without patching Emacs. Emacs communicates with an external process to do it. Would such a solution -- perhaps with even better integration into Emacs not involve the least amount of work and a useful subset of features. Writing Emacs extensions in such languages will be not be like writing native programs, because communication with Emacs has to be cared about, but at least it is a starting point. Alex. -- http://www.electronicintifada.net/diaries/index.html http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US-Israel/hr2506c.html