From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Shutko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestions for mode-line-format changes Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:12:41 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87ptw6y1li.fsf@wesley.springies.com> References: <5xk7mlfsvf.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <874rdl357r.fsf@wesley.springies.com> <5xhehiwlok.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030318122 19311 127.0.0.1 (25 Aug 2002 23:28:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bill White , emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17j6oD-00051L-00 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:28:41 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17j7Ik-0001GA-00 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 02:00:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17j6pT-0008Dx-00; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:29:59 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17j6mi-0008DU-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17j6md-0008D8-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.9]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17j6md-0008D3-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from wesley.springies.com (ool-182f7213.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.114.19]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 0.9 (built Jul 29 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H1F009WC9SPHT@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from ats by wesley.springies.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17j6Yp-0002nC-00; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:12:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5xhehiwlok.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 24 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6884 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6884 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > I guess most users will agree that knowing the time is > important around lunch time and near the end of the day :-) It's also mail, battery status, and upcoming appointments for me. Some packages I don't personally use which seem to use global-mode-string include timeclock and viper. > Well for many years, I've looked near the end of the mode line for > the line and column number ... and they just moved too. > > If they had sayed put, this would never have become an issue :-) If that's causing this many problems, maybe they should be moved back, and we continue with the plans to allow customize to do mode-line-format things. I'm not sure what the best default for the mode-line is, but I'm not sure we're improving it for the common case.... -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Auditorium: Derived from 'audio' (to hear) and 'taurus' (bull).