From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Right Alt/Meta keys on Windows systems Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:55:46 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87psnfv1g5.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200512281541.jBSFfXUQ013499@copa.pajato.com> <200512292110.08239.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <87r77v3dt8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200512292313.02799.pogonyshev@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135908553 13090 80.91.229.2 (30 Dec 2005 02:09:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 03:09:07 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Es9ha-0001eu-Eh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:09:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Es9iy-0004vD-5B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:10:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Es9ik-0004v4-Ic for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:10:18 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Es9ik-0004uo-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:10:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Es9ij-0004uk-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.98] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Es9jA-00035E-FE; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:10:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-34-222-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.34.222]) by Relayhost1.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73587CC89; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:08:37 +0200 (EET) Original-To: Paul Pogonyshev In-Reply-To: <200512292313.02799.pogonyshev@gmx.net> (Paul Pogonyshev's message of "Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:13:02 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48518 Archived-At: > Yes, I'm proposing that LEIM behaves more like `xkb' layout switcher. Do > you not see that they do the same thing: they switch layouts? Do you not > agree that when there are such strong parallels between two different > mechanism functionalities, it is very convenient when they also have the > same interface? The only thing I wonder about is why do you enable a LEIM input method while you are using a XIM input method at the same time? When a LEIM input method is disabled, everything works correctly. After switching a XIM input method with Group_switch and typing a character while holding Mode_switch, Emacs inserts a Latin character. When you do the same with a LEIM input method enabled, X sends a Latin character to Emacs, and LEIM translates it to Cyrillic. This is the correct behavior for LEIM. It is your decision to enable a LEIM input method. Emacs doesn't enable it by default. Isn't it easy for you just not to enable a LEIM input method? -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/