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From: Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de>
To: Nic James Ferrier <nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Saving markup formats
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:12:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ps3qriao.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87abuuexfo.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> (Nic James Ferrier's message of "Wed\, 20 Jun 2007 11\:23\:55 +0100")

Nic James Ferrier <nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk> writes:

[...]
> What do you think about the idea of an Emacs mode based on properties
> representing styles as I outlined earlier?
>
> The tiny OpenDoc example:
>
> #("Nic Ferrier - CV" 0 16 (element h2))
> #("Nic is a hacker with some crazy ideas" 0 37 (element para style p1))

Unless I am missing something, this is just one possible internal
representation of a tree-like data structure. In fact, I have once
experimented with this. Its main problem is that the data structure
would get corrupted in certain cases, especially when yanking text or
when some Lisp function is using `insert'. One way to deal with that,
would be to let font-lock automatically fix it. But this seems ugly.

More importantly, I understand that Richard is strongly opposed to any
such kind of data structure. So this wouldn't make any difference. If
a tree-like data structure is o.k., then---given the sensibility of
maintaining the integrity of said data structure---I, as a user, would
very much prefer some solution at the C-level. At least in the long
run. But actually, the specific internal representation is a secondary
issue. The general architecture and the UI is much more important and
I don't see any room for agreement there.


    Oliver
-- 
Oliver Scholz               2 Messidor an 215 de la Révolution
Ostendstr. 61               Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!
60314 Frankfurt a. M.       

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-20 11:12 UTC|newest]

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2007-06-16 19:56                 ` Saving markup formats Reiner Steib
2007-06-17 18:54                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-17 21:08                     ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-17 21:18                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-17 21:57                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-17 22:13                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-17 22:27                           ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-17 22:37                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-17 22:47                               ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-17 23:02                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-17 23:13                                   ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-17 23:46                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-18  8:03                                       ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-18  8:26                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-18  8:44                                           ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-18  9:25                                         ` Dave Pawson
2007-06-18 21:25                                         ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-18 22:13                                           ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-19  7:18                                             ` Dave Pawson
2007-06-19  7:41                                               ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-17 23:08                                 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-18  0:30                             ` XML editing wishlist (was: Saving markup formats) Drew Adams
2007-06-18  8:10                               ` XML editing wishlist Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-18 13:51                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-18 14:39                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-19 23:57                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-20 20:49                                 ` Vagn Johansen
2007-06-17 21:55                       ` Saving markup formats Juri Linkov
2007-06-18 21:31                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-18  0:05                   ` Oliver Scholz
2007-06-18 21:19                     ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-19  7:43                       ` Oliver Scholz
2007-06-19 13:38                         ` Drew Adams
2007-06-19 13:59                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-19 22:25                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-19 23:40                           ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-20  0:10                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-20  0:22                               ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-20  0:38                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-20  1:02                                   ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-20  2:19                                     ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-20  8:51                                     ` David House
2007-06-20 10:16                                       ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-20 10:46                                         ` David House
2007-06-20 10:56                                           ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-20  9:45                                     ` Mathias Dahl
2007-06-20 10:19                                       ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-20 11:20                                         ` Mathias Dahl
2007-06-20 11:49                                           ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-20  0:08                           ` Oliver Scholz
2007-06-20  5:37                             ` David Kastrup
2007-06-20 10:05                               ` Oliver Scholz
2007-06-20 10:23                                 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-20 11:12                                   ` Oliver Scholz [this message]
2007-06-20 11:20                                     ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-20 12:36                                       ` Oliver Scholz
2007-06-20 17:36                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-20 20:10                                       ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-21  0:05                                         ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-21  3:59                                           ` Davis Herring
2007-06-21  7:56                                             ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-21 10:07                                               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-21 10:31                                                 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-21 10:52                                                   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-21 12:50                                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-21 13:05                                               ` Davis Herring
2007-06-21 13:23                                                 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22  1:51                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21 17:32                                         ` Richard Stallman

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