From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling TransientMark Mode by default] Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:13:01 +0900 Message-ID: <87prurb20i.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20080220200142.GA1979@muc.de> <006e01c8740e$366ebbd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203556918 3891 80.91.229.12 (21 Feb 2008 01:21:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, 'Sascha Wilde' , lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, 'Stefan Monnier' , storm@cua.dk, 'Alan Mackenzie' To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 21 02:22:20 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JS08b-000575-97 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:22:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JS086-00059v-3D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:21:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRz3r-0003GT-Ea for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:13:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRz3p-0003FR-6e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:13:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRz3p-0003FN-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:13:13 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRz3h-0006yT-Ka; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:13:06 -0500 Original-Received: from 203-216-97-013.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.97.13] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JRz3e-0001TA-Cd; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:13:02 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CEABF2FF7; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:13:01 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <006e01c8740e$366ebbd0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:16:14 -0800") Original-Lines: 18 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:21:13 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89761 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > Question: Is it important that the region stay active when you move point? > If not, then perhaps (in t-m mode) we should always have point movement > deactivate the region. Yes, in fact it's a basic tenent of tmm usage... People that are used to tmm would be _extremely_ inconvenienced if movement deactivated the mark. Remember: tmm is not cua-selection-mode. -Miles -- "An atheist doesn't have to be someone who thinks he has a proof that there can't be a god. He only has to be someone who believes that the evidence on the God question is at a similar level to the evidence on the werewolf question." [John McCarthy]