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From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs Bazaar repository
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:30:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87prtq20l7.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7ccd24b0803190749k35390c35j9d694c998a50bcfc@mail.gmail.com> (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:49:47 +0100")

"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:

> Also, that every dVCS is flexible enough to adapt does not mean that
> all workflows are equally practical or easy to follow with any of
> them.

True.

> Were this not the Emacs project, determining the workflow and choosing
> the tool that best matches it would seem preferable to trying to
> shoehorn this or that tool to the desired workflow.

My guess is that the collective workflow will change after the switch.  
My point was to try thinking about such possible changes, depending on
what people think of the current workflow. 

> I don't think we're at that point yet. We're at the point were normal
> operations are slow because of the Emacs' repository size and long
> history. At least, that's what it seems from the comments so far.

Okay.  Hopefully bzr will improve quickly.

> Agreed. But there are relatively few, very specific parts of Emacs
> that suffer this problem: gnus, org, etc.

Right.  But think of the work on the rmail-mbox-branch.  If this branch
was really an independant subproject (like Gnus), it would help people
jumping in.  

>>  I propose to think about what a _distributed_ VCS
>>  would be really useful for as a collective tool, in hope that such a
>>  discussion might give directions in the evaluation of bzr.
>
> That kind of discussion should be independent of the tool, shouldn't
> it?

Yes, sure.  But it seems more useful to have this discussion instead of
the git-bzr-mercurial debate...  

-- 
Bastien




  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-19 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 236+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-12 23:41 Emacs Bazaar repository Jason Earl
2008-03-13  1:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13  1:52 ` dhruva
2008-03-13  2:26   ` Bastien
2008-03-13  2:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13  3:12     ` dhruva
2008-03-13  4:06 ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-13  4:11   ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-29  1:00     ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-13 15:30   ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-13 15:58     ` dhruva
2008-03-13 16:50     ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 20:18     ` How to spell "commit" [was: bikeshedding bzr (or similar) :] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13  4:09 ` Emacs Bazaar repository Karl Fogel
2008-03-13  4:15   ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-13  4:30     ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14  1:11       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14  1:51         ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14  5:10           ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-13  9:58     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-13 22:13       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14 10:27         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 10:36           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13  5:08   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 10:39   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-13 14:45     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13  4:19 ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-03-13  5:20   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13  8:04     ` dhruva
2008-03-13  9:04       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13  9:41         ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13 12:08           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 23:46       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14  2:52         ` dhruva
2008-03-14  3:00           ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14  3:03           ` Martin Pool
2008-03-14  5:36             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14  7:03               ` Martin Pool
2008-03-15  4:44                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 10:30         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 15:02         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-03-13 11:20     ` James Westby
2008-03-13 16:37       ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13  7:43 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13  8:49   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13  9:07     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 13:11     ` Aaron Bentley
2008-03-13 11:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-13 11:55   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14  9:58     ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 10:42       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 12:24         ` Matthieu Moy
     [not found]         ` <8562053f49b38b1584b86e1e4d1ec6e6, vpqbq5htrwx.fsf@bauges.imag.fr>
2008-03-14 12:42           ` David Ingamells
2008-03-14 13:05             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 12:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-14  8:23         ` John Arbash Meinel
2008-03-14 13:32           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 13:39             ` James Westby
2008-03-14 14:13             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:30               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:37                 ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-14 16:17                   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 16:32                     ` Daniel Mark Watkins
2008-03-14 15:15                 ` David Allouche
2008-03-14 15:21                   ` James Westby
2008-03-14 15:43                 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 13:35           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 13:44             ` James Westby
2008-03-14 13:59               ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 14:09                 ` James Westby
2008-03-14 14:29                   ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-15  0:39                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-15 10:30                     ` James Westby
2008-03-15 12:30                       ` James Westby
2008-03-14 23:34           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-17 10:41             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-17 12:39             ` Sergei Organov
2008-03-18  1:48               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-18  2:13                 ` dhruva
2008-03-18  4:03                   ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-18  5:00                     ` dhruva
2008-03-18  5:40                       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-18  9:17                     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 10:00                       ` dhruva
2008-03-19  5:44                         ` Bastien
2008-03-19  9:42                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 14:04                             ` Bastien
2008-03-19 14:49                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 15:30                                 ` Bastien [this message]
2008-03-29  1:00                         ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 16:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 18:15                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-20 14:00                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 14:10                             ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-20 15:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 20:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-21 12:51                             ` dhruva
2008-03-29  1:00                       ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 19:31                     ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-18 19:27                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-18 20:05                     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 20:26                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-22  4:23                         ` Michael Olson
2008-03-22 11:18                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-24  6:19                             ` Michael Olson
2008-03-25  9:36                               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-20  1:04                       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-18 20:58                     ` Brian Cully
2008-03-18 21:13                       ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-18 21:45                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 22:02                       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-19  1:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 23:18                       ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-18 23:46                         ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19  0:13                         ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-19  0:17                           ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-19  1:14                             ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-19  0:12                     ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-26  7:56                       ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27 22:22                         ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-29  1:00                         ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-14 12:56         ` dhruva
2008-03-14 13:10           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-14 13:23             ` dhruva
2008-03-14 13:26               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:19             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:29               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-15  0:43             ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-03-15 14:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-15 15:06                 ` dhruva
2008-03-15  0:44             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-17 10:43               ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 22:26           ` Martin Geisler
2008-03-15 12:09             ` dhruva
2008-03-15 21:32               ` Martin Geisler
2008-03-25 21:46               ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-03-19 10:50           ` Sascha Wilde
2008-03-14 13:03         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:24           ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:41             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:46               ` Jelmer Vernooij
2008-03-14 15:15                 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-15  0:49               ` Harald Meland
2008-03-14 18:04         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14 19:42           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 19:47             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 20:01               ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-14 20:06                 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 21:43         ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-15  0:00         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13 20:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-14 10:23     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14  3:56   ` Forest Bond
2008-03-14 10:32     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 11:28       ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 22:23         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 23:49           ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14  4:52   ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14  6:21     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14  6:33       ` Alexander Belchenko
2008-03-14  7:16         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14  9:18           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-14 10:08             ` Matthew D. Fuller
2008-03-14 10:14               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 16:31             ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-14 10:35     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 10:37     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 11:30   ` Matt Nordhoff
2008-03-29  1:00   ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-13 13:07 ` Andrea Russo
2008-03-14  9:16   ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-13 14:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 18:35   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14 18:51   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 19:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 19:32       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 20:12       ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 18:31 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2008-03-16 18:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-16 19:53   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-17 15:00     ` Michael Haggerty
2008-03-17 16:37       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 21:47   ` Toshio Kuratomi
2008-03-18 15:43 ` Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 15:51   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-18 16:05     ` dhruva
2008-03-19  2:53       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27  1:32         ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-27  2:24           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-27  2:55           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-27 11:58             ` dhruva
2008-03-27 13:59             ` Vincent Ladeuil
2008-03-29  1:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29  1:30                 ` James Westby
2008-03-29  3:09                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29  4:06                     ` James Westby
2008-03-29  4:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29  1:00             ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29  4:34               ` David Cournapeau
2008-03-31  0:00                 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29  1:00       ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29  9:19         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-29  9:58           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-29 10:13             ` dhruva
2008-03-29 10:26               ` David Kastrup
2008-03-31  0:00               ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29 14:55             ` Randal L. Schwartz
2008-03-29 16:35               ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-03-29 18:13                 ` tomas
2008-03-29 21:05                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-30  5:49               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30  5:49           ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30  6:25             ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-03-30 19:56               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-31  0:00           ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 16:19     ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-19  9:43       ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 16:02   ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-18 16:33     ` dhruva
2008-03-18 18:41       ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-03-19  1:40         ` dhruva
2008-03-18 21:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-18 17:11     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 17:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 18:20       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-18 16:43   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 19:19     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 20:22   ` James Westby
2008-03-19 11:37   ` Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git (rerun) Teemu Likonen
2008-03-19 12:17     ` James Westby
2008-03-19 22:39       ` Robert Collins
2008-03-19 16:41     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-22 17:59 ` Emacs Bazaar repository Stefan Monnier
2008-03-22 19:59   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-24  7:53 ` Christian Faulhammer

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