From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: evangelizing Emacs with a graphical tutorial Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:30:44 -0400 Message-ID: <87prpi73ln.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87ejpc3ilr.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <878wwen09k.fsf@jurta.org> <87wsjqg2br.fsf_-_@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215927064 12804 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2008 05:31:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 13 07:31:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KHuBa-00074e-M8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:31:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60876 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KHuAi-0001Kl-Lw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:30:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KHuAb-0001Kg-Bj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:30:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KHuAY-0001KU-KW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:30:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54952 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KHuAY-0001KR-BU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: from c-24-63-201-57.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.63.201.57]:21065 helo=furry) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KHuAY-0002Vi-3B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 44CADC054; Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:30:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87wsjqg2br.fsf_-_@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:21:59 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:100633 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > BTW, while looking now at the startup screen with a new nice image, > I have a feeling that it is a bit unfriendly to put the word "to quit" > just below the word "Welcome". > > I propose to move this line a few lines below to be after the line > "To start". This would be more logical place and more friendly. > > Everyone will still see it on the startup screen. Anyway, this line > is less noticeable than the line "Emacs Tutorial Learn basic keystroke > commands", so when the user visits the Tutorial without reading > anything else on the startup screen, then the user misses this important > information on the beginning of the Tutorial. So I also propose to add > this line to the Tutorial as well. The following path does this: Sounds good.