From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should not syntax for ?- char be word in text mode? Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:40:04 +0900 Message-ID: <87prc0sq4r.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247751709 30043 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2009 13:41:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 16 15:41:42 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MRRDR-0001I7-4W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:41:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54986 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRRDQ-0008KL-E7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:41:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRRC5-0007j2-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:40:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRRBz-0007fr-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:40:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52247 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRRBy-0007fg-U7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:40:11 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:59393) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MRRBw-0001CY-Oh; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:40:09 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.109.150.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.109.150] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1MRRBt-0002QH-N8; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:40:05 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB61DDF72; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:40:04 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:11:37 +0200") Original-Lines: 24 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112525 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > I think text buffers are different. You are wrong. > You normally enter text there, not programming symbols. Don't think of "words" and "symbols" as being rigidly linked to outside definitions. There's certainly some connection (thus syntax tables), but they are also _Emacs_ concepts, and in many cases, that's more important. This is one such case. The preservation of user's intuitions about what commands do, and the "feel" of movement is far more important than being pedantic about adherence to dictionary definitions. My fingers don't lie. -Miles -- Alliance, n. In international politics, the union of two thieves who have their hands so deeply inserted in each other's pockets that they cannot separately plunder a third.