From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: bug tracker woes/misunderstanding Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 02:14:06 +0900 Message-ID: <87pqnmcyld.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <042C2BC3673A4EA187047FE106A0ED89@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1305306496 20715 80.91.229.12 (13 May 2011 17:08:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 17:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Stefan Monnier' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 13 19:08:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvqU-0002HX-D0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 19:08:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33798 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvqT-0008CI-R4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 13:08:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39577) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvqR-0008CD-Th for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 13:08:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvqR-0005e9-1F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 13:08:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:35605) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QKvqQ-0005dt-M6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 May 2011 13:08:07 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A31C3FA0506; Sat, 14 May 2011 02:07:57 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D20871A2763; Sat, 14 May 2011 02:14:06 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.93a under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" eb4eeec50f25 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139371 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Thanks, but I do not understand how what I did in this case differs > from what I always do, except for changing "RE" to "OT". "The doctor says, 'If it hurts when you do that, stop doing it.'" Explanation: Looking at the subject is heuristic. Typically the rule is: the bug number must be the first thing in the subject in exactly the same format as the tracker produces, except for "RE:" stripping. "OT" not a bug number, so the tracker assumes it's new bug. > I just hit `Reply All', as usual. Looking at past replies of mine, > I see that some of the mails I replied to were addressed to > bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, and others were addressed to > @debbugs.gnu.org - and this within the same thread! Why? Why not? It works fine as long as you don't try to be smart with the subject line. Some heuristic is necessary because copies of bug messages with the generic To: address are always going to exist, and people *will* reply to those. > I do not understand why some messages I receive in a thread have > one address and others in the same thread have the other address, Because some are produced by the tracker itself (ie, when you are subscribed to the bug), and others are initial reports or replies that arrive in your inbox by some other route (self-cc of various kinds, mailing lists, etc). > but `Reply All' to both kinds seems to work. @ works by protocol (and is reliable). bug-gnu-emacs@ works by heuristic (don't push your luck!) > What am I missing? ;-)