From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "Eric M. Ludlam" <eric@siege-engine.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jorgen Schaefer <forcer@forcix.cx>,
John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>
Subject: Re: A unified project root interface
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:34:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ppyurpxa.fsf@engster.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvppyu2pv8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:57:16 -0400")
Stefan Monnier writes:
>>> That might require splitting EIEIO, or some other approach, maybe,
>>> I don't know.
>> I don't think that's a practical approach. In EDE, a project *is* a
>> class.
>
> [ Actually, there are various reasons to split EIEIO, one of them would
> be to try and fix the eval-and-compile mess. ]
What do you mean by "splitting EIEIO"? Into what parts?
>> I would however like to ask if such a 'project-root' feature is
>> absolutely needed right at startup time. I'm not sure about the overhead
>> involved when loading files, which might be annoying to people who don't
>> need it. OTOH, we already have vc-find-file-hook enabled by default,
>> which I guess renders such questions moot...
>
> Right, one possible approach is to try and delay the use of
> project-root, as is done for VC: have a preloaded ede-hooks.el file
> which is just enough to try and detect projects that use EDE, and then
> only load EDE if/when opening a file in such a project.
This won't work; you cannot detect whether a file is part of a project
without the project's definition (which comes in the form of a class, as
I've already written). It's a chicken/egg thing. Yes, there are projects
which save their state in a file 'Project.ede'; these could be detected,
but that's a special case.
So again, if such a 'project-root' feature is needed at startup, EDE is
out. Separating EDE from EIEIO would mean rewriting it.
Instead, I'd vote for a very simple approach which at least takes EDE
projects into account, among other things. Roughly like this:
(defun project-root-ede (file)
(when (and (featurep' ede)
(with-current-buffer file
ede-object-root-project))
... return EDE root ... ))
(defun project-root-vc (file)
(when (vc-file-registered file)
... return root from VC ... ))
(defvar project-root-detect-functions
'(project-root-ede project-root-vc))
(defun project-root ()
(run-hook-with-args-until-success
project-root-detect-functions
(buffer-file-name (current-buffer))))
-David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-20 16:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-09 16:44 A unified project root interface Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-09 17:12 ` Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2013-03-10 5:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-10 10:06 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-11 18:57 ` Lluís
2013-03-12 23:28 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-12 23:42 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-13 2:02 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-13 18:03 ` David Engster
2013-03-13 19:11 ` Sudish Joseph
2013-03-16 0:47 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-16 14:18 ` David Engster
2013-03-16 15:02 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-16 22:27 ` Phil Hagelberg
2013-03-16 22:59 ` David Engster
2013-03-16 23:16 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-17 17:40 ` David Engster
2013-03-17 18:18 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-18 22:50 ` David Engster
2013-03-19 1:57 ` John Yates
2013-03-19 7:18 ` David Engster
2013-03-19 12:23 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-19 13:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-19 19:09 ` David Engster
2013-03-20 3:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 4:48 ` Leo Liu
2013-03-20 7:04 ` joakim
2013-03-20 7:05 ` David Engster
2013-03-20 7:13 ` David Engster
2013-03-20 12:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 16:14 ` Davis Herring
2013-03-20 17:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 17:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 18:20 ` Bruce Korb
2013-03-20 22:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 16:34 ` David Engster [this message]
2013-03-20 17:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-21 0:55 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-21 3:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-21 4:07 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-21 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-22 2:12 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-23 11:04 ` EIEIO split (was: A unified project root interface) David Engster
2013-03-21 16:32 ` A unified project root interface David Engster
2013-03-22 0:47 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-22 20:30 ` David Engster
2013-03-23 17:10 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-23 17:26 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-23 18:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-23 20:51 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-03-24 4:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-24 10:13 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-04-06 13:25 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-04-06 17:13 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-04-08 19:03 ` David Engster
2013-12-31 20:12 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-03-20 17:49 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-19 7:33 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-17 8:08 ` joakim
2013-03-12 15:34 ` Sudish Joseph
2013-03-12 16:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-12 18:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
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