From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CommonLisp namespace system (was Re: adding namespaces to emacs-lisp (better elisp?)) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:06:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87ppu516qn.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <874nbh2z3y.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87y58t1cih.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> <87zjt9rwh7.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> <85aa2168-3fd2-42f0-b03f-74c3bc258545@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374865582 12993 80.91.229.3 (26 Jul 2013 19:06:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 19:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom Tromey , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 26 21:06:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V2nLI-0003Yd-Ol for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 21:06:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45890 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2nLH-0004ba-Mn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:06:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59839) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2nLC-0004ad-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:06:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2nLA-0006ZK-Bb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:06:14 -0400 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:60016 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2nLA-0006ZG-6A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:06:12 -0400 Original-Received: from nferrier-Dell-System-XPS-L322X (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D08AC00F7; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 21:09:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from nics-xps (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nferrier-Dell-System-XPS-L322X (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB738C0409; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:06:08 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <85aa2168-3fd2-42f0-b03f-74c3bc258545@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:58:52 -0700 (PDT)") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162168 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> However, in practice I don't think there's any difficulty of using the >> name to mean both things, just a small overlap during discussions. > > I guess I would have to agree with that. It would proabably be workable. > > That said, it would be better to change the terminology for package.el - > e.g., when we introduce CL-style "packages". Sadly, no one is offering to do that. I am offering to do something based on what I proposed. I can see how that can be implemented. I am explicitly not offering to implement the CommonLisp name spacing system in Emacs. I can promise that I won't needlessly differ from it. Where I do differ from it there will be a good reason. Of course, I would be very happy if you, or someone else, built a proper CommonLisp namespacing system in Emacs. Then I wouldn't even have to implement my lesser proposal. Nic