From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Apologia for bzr Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:27:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87ppo4nqlv.fsf@zigzag.favinet> References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <52CB12DE.7040905@dancol.org> <87lhysu0t9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389083078 1844 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 08:24:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 08:24:38 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 09:24:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Rxq-00039H-Bk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:24:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39300 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Rxp-0005xc-Sg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:24:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34717) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Rxf-0005j7-EQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:24:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0RxY-0006Rj-3d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:24:31 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp209.alice.it ([82.57.200.105]:17063) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0RxX-0006QT-Oa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 03:24:24 -0500 Original-Received: from zigzag.favinet (95.244.66.162) by smtp209.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 52443BB0151DC2F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 09:24:21 +0100 Original-Received: from ttn by zigzag.favinet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W0S17-000474-Vx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:28:06 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 7 Jan 2014 01:02:53 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.105 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167577 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable () Lennart Borgman () Tue, 7 Jan 2014 01:02:53 +0100 There are trade offs, but it is bad logic to say it is a bad idea just because of that of course. The idea may or may not be bad, but what's that have to do w/ reality? I think the consequence would be a rapid influx of new users, keen to experience the Emacs phenomenon, who just as rapidly leave, disgusted, when all the net.wisdom is largely for the "old (crufty, not the groovy spectacle i was promised, this sucks, where's my refund)" Emacs. If they do manage to stick around, OTOH, they will need to join the rest of us in contemplating, working around, justifying, and (in the end) condemning the "wanton bifurcation" to their non-Emacs-using and (what's worse) Emacs-using non-programmer friends. All archived (thanks NSA), and now net.wisdom is net.dissipation. Ugh. On the third hand, who [hn]eeds commentary/code more than 3 solar cycles past, right? The sages of Pompeii, they [dl]ie like fools. Carry on! =2D-=20 Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) =3D> nil --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlLLuo8ACgkQZwMiJEyAdQINDQCgu64P3LPRtppdOnRe6RbQWDx+ e9MAoLqN82VRQSEhBoZbtTlCSBIALeox =xIqb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--