From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:43:11 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87ppbxrcwg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87r3wem9g5.fsf@violet.siamics.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417815929 20897 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 21:45:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 21:45:29 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 22:45:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0gh-0002iX-Om for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:45:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52581 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0gh-0007hk-BD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:45:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51334) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0gY-0007hf-V0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0gT-0004a9-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:45:10 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37976) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0gS-0004Z6-Rg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:45:04 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx0gR-0002Xl-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:45:03 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f51fab.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.245.31.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:45:03 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f51fab.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:45:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f51fab.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zQtlo23R+t6GQuZWqQyUDMmAdjI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179026 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Also, the above made me curious of what exact features of the >> HTML presentation are felt missing in Info? (In relation to GNU >> documentation, anyway.) > > The main issue with the Info format is that it's not designed to be > parsed. Even the tiny bit of parsing that's expected (i.e. find menu > entries and hyperlinks) is not very well designed (e.g. restrictions on > the kind of characters that appear in a menu entry). A new iteration of the Info format may well be reasonable. It may also be reasonable to ditch the Info format and just let Emacs deal similarly well with the HTML output from Texinfo (it does not need a full HTML parser for that). But I don't see the point in ditching Texinfo as the source format. -- David Kastrup