From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 15:27:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418308118 4003 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2014 14:28:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 11 15:28:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz4jH-00045G-JK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 15:28:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51773 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz4jH-0005gp-2c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:28:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56008) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz4iu-0005Y5-Sx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:28:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz4im-0004xX-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:28:08 -0500 Original-Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([2a01:474::1]:45635) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz4im-0004ul-Dr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:28:00 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4674418C; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 15:27:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WhKUbt6WdNdG; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 15:27:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from pluto (pluto.bordeaux.inria.fr [193.50.110.57]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 927A740A5; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 15:27:58 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 21 Frimaire an 223 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Fri, 5 Dec 2014 07:35:49 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:474::1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179757 Archived-At: GNU has a culture of high-quality documentation. Texinfo is a tool for that, providing features like indexes, cross-manual references, documentation-oriented markup, and several output media. AFAIK, neither AsciiDoc nor =E2=80=9Cheavier=E2=80=9D options like DocBook support all of = that. Info browsers make it easy to browse manuals, search for index terms, follow links, including to other manuals. A Web browser cannot achieve that because a Web browser is not designed for that. "Eric S. Raymond" skribis: > I have discussed this with RMS and, pending my ability to actually write > proper translation tools, we have agreed on asciidoc as a new master=20 > format. That=E2=80=99s a discussion that would need to involve all of GNU, not just Emacs circles. I don=E2=80=99t see how that change could happen. IMO we should think about what makes sense to achieve the project=E2=80=99s goals, and set the standards rather than wander around to please the hypothetical =E2=80=9Cyounger developers.=E2=80=9D Ludo=E2=80=99.