From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 12:40:01 +0100 Message-ID: <87ppb28z1q.fsf@building.gnus.org> References: <83ppbanqhe.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbl2xigp.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83ioh2nlow.fsf@gnu.org> <87sig6xech.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvc5ni0u.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31fwwyv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnmq9ibf.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87lhlrx5fc.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fxb9821.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <878uhrg6uu.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tnj90lt.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87mw67elgf.fsf@building.gnus.org> <86bnmn1rwk.fsf@dod.no> <87tx0fczoj.fsf@building.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419853243 22473 80.91.229.3 (29 Dec 2014 11:40:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 11:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 29 12:40:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Ygc-0005nF-2p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 12:40:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32993 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Yga-0000i3-Ug for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 06:40:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59454) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5YgV-0000hh-6A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 06:40:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5YgQ-0000jF-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 06:40:27 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:50013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5YgP-0000jA-Rw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 06:40:22 -0500 Original-Received: from 2.150.68.69.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.68.69] helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Yg7-0006ES-Lg; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 12:40:04 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEVHicja5eT///7///9M jspNjbx0epFilcZimMyrq7YLDQ5BdrExPFpDh8dWlMlWltBDJEBgAAABWElEQVQ4jcXUL27DMBQG cIPSgSQo0C4azS4wENyRBVWKNGKpUunU3aBBm5JIld4FBnKFaheYCnqBsWGPFi17z//mJC0a2Kcq qb+fHYNYYTcXwv4bhBtk+uegjgF4nDb8OuKpSGshLOxWACBXIOVOSsBLYyESQkQi5hEXHP8KPrcg ARpck0I93DyLAHAX4OnDCIRLLILMWbYZ5MneE5btKW8fo7QaJrWFScsMBIXPFcKwnM3yPL9lzMGR yvw3LNFwHLYUDcdJbQAfbEe9Sf6pwU2/632UUgQ0fxHUff+tgXr11U9h2lu4zxdK+e5UVS+0iQZl AUsbA7iAnlUFeSYolYZTCNuNA1UNe4JiAlvzaotyBO6dF3oJHgM/24OVMI8GyhAUFsWy1aAXmXux 1Mdp39pzFeZA8XAI8t51HYIfd2EQurP5M7zKtZQriRnDei0PhARwNsnFL8MPu3QqLeJkL3kAAAAA SUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: burn's _304 (Moon Base Big)_: "Wire!Red_Barked_Tree!01-Please_Take" In-Reply-To: (Yuri Khan's message of "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:31:11 +0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1Y5Yg7-0006ES-Lg MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1420458004.1979@5pScJYqOMh+4yjrbbM+dTw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180809 Archived-At: Yuri Khan writes: > With explicit closing tags, it is immediately visible where the author > (or their tool) intended the element to end. Modifying the HTML > generation logic only involves ensuring that nesting is not broken. > > With implicit tags, browsers can and will infer tag nesting on their > own, and have an intricate system of rules to do so. Modifying the > logic involves carefully working out where browsers would infer the > missing tags, and then work with that knowledge to ensure that nesting > won=92t break. Yeah, that's why all Python code looks like for x in range(10): # THE LINE ENDED THERE squares.append(x**2) # THE FOR ENDS HERE I PROMISE!!! It's then immediately visible where the author intended the lines to end. XHTML was history over five years ago. It's time you XML fanatics accept that HTML is a different language with different rules and stop this incessant kvetching.=20 --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/