From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark H Weaver Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What would an "An Official" GNU Emacs Book look like? Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 22:44:20 -0400 Message-ID: <87pp5ivl6j.fsf@netris.org> References: <87siauzjiz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <555955B1.5040905@gmail.com> <87oalizg8r.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87twv9sno8.fsf@mbork.pl> <87r3qdd4ms.fsf@debian.uxu> <874mn89n6m.fsf@debian.uxu> <877fs2zkdg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <2125C8DF-D445-421F-8687-A187D56CC695@gmail.com> <5455BD20-A26D-4070-BC14-C092F846AE9E@gmail.com> <30AC4EAA-FFD2-4417-8CE1-3E243E152B04@gmail.com> <3E153D6B-2E99-4EB3-8F15-4706E6421054@gmail.com> <73A50486-F72D-47AF-99A0-623BE3CAF08B@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1432953897 8368 80.91.229.3 (30 May 2015 02:44:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 02:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 30 04:44:46 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YyWlQ-00041r-2S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 May 2015 04:44:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38179 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyWlP-00059U-DH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 22:44:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47075) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyWlE-00059N-IQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 22:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyWlB-0002u0-Dd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 May 2015 22:44:32 -0400 Original-Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:46991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YyWlB-0002tr-9w; Fri, 29 May 2015 22:44:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.1.10.104] (helo=jojen) by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1YyWl3-00085g-JO; Fri, 29 May 2015 22:44:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <73A50486-F72D-47AF-99A0-623BE3CAF08B@gmail.com> (chad's message of "Wed, 27 May 2015 22:15:28 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 50.252.239.5 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186947 Archived-At: chad writes: >> On 27 May 2015, at 07:25, Richard Stallman wrote: >>=20 >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >>=20 >>> There is a difference for android devices, not really for iOS, but >>> it doesnt matter, since I=E2=80=99m not talking about either one. >>=20 >> I was talking about iThings specifically, so it looks like we >> were talking about different things. > > We really, really arent. The link I sent you describes how to > install software that you write on a non-jailbroken, non-rooted, > fresh-from-the-store iOS device without having ever purchased an > enrollment in the iOS Developer Program. No it doesn't. The link[1] you sent explicitly says that the methods described therein work _only_ on "jailbroken" devices: "To develop for the device, one should first obtain a provisioning profile by joining the iPhone Developer Program (which costs $99). However, some simple tricks can be used to make Xcode compile and debug on jailbroken devices without provisioning profiles." [1] This immediately precedes method 1. Method 2 references another guide[2] whose requirements include "Jailbroken device". Method 3 includes the requirement "Device needs to be jailbroken". No more methods are described. Mark [1] http://iphonedevwiki.net/index.php/Xcode [2] http://www.sysrage.net/guides/ios-programming/building-and-running-ios-= applications-without-a-paid-developer-license