From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: string> missing? Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:35:31 +0000 Message-ID: <87pp59et3w.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <87oakxkvqw.fsf@petton.fr> <83zj4grgkc.fsf@gnu.org> <87sia8n8b5.fsf@petton.fr> <87zj4gu821.fsf@gnu.org> <83sia8rdkm.fsf@gnu.org> <83pp5crbfd.fsf@gnu.org> <837frjqzpk.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpzinfhy.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpzhc2i7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1433540172 16966 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2015 21:36:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 21:36:12 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 05 23:36:05 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0zHT-0007uU-IW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 23:35:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49691 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0zHS-00054f-Sp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:35:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0zHN-00054a-7K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:35:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0zHL-0006Xp-Q5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:35:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2]:60960) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0zHL-0006Ta-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:35:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=zAGyrS69XT00iTV3O6lxzeT8l0bTzoXshzdWc69i24I=; b=QhKVoIuEaKiw/Ey+UCf5Mb+yXf/EpzPGTyQfqfpGfKgi5A4O1hkXMj05DZlAq3H+7U7Spkhv8wwn6j/SSyI2YvNcI88aqBpPkfDR2RtufCyL5zkiVW7RD8EVxbMplb3F8DgEd52jGAMNFJOn+fgpiK0NrihXNJM71wV5fNf5hQI=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0zH9-0006Nj-Ez for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:35:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0zH2-0001aj-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 04:35:32 +0700 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87wpzhc2i7.fsf@gnu.org> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Fri, 05 Jun 2015 22:40:48 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187054 Archived-At: >>>>> Tassilo Horn writes: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>> Adding string> might be 200 bytes. Saving 200 bytes is >>> insignificant. >> It was also insignificant back when you decided not to include it. > Adding string> to Emacs proper is maybe additional 200 bytes but may > save a multiple of its size when packages start using it instead of > defining their own version each. For example, there are already > gnus-string>, org-string>, and also org-string>=3D. And there are also > quite many lambdas implementing string>, e.g., in emacs/lisp/help.el, > so the addition of string> can in fact reduce the Emacs footprint if > it gets used there. Then again, introducing string> in version X of Emacs means that all these packages are still bound to carry their own versions until their respective maintainers decide to drop support for pre-X Emacs versions. --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://am-1.org/~ivan/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A