From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Live System User Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Local elisp library files and variable corruption Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: <87por61khy.fsf@aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466794784 6445 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2016 18:59:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 18:59:44 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 24 20:59:35 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bGWKE-00068i-PW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 20:59:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46887 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bGWKA-0007O1-Q0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:59:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47439) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bGWK5-0007Ni-06 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:59:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bGWK1-0003WM-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:59:25 -0400 Original-Received: from omr-m004e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.4]:53327) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bGWK0-0003WG-Uc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:59:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout-mbd02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbd02.mx.aol.com [172.26.252.14]) by omr-m004e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1FEE738000A1 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-50-163-96-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [50.163.96.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbd02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id C580F380000A0 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:59:19 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.94 (gnu/linux) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1466794760; bh=Z4aYy3ISfKkSVxLPXnXQLMrsheWISAHhY2pZO4ASILM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=152SeB9YsjaG2TDMoykPzwI5sMUTupG9fYWK4Qw/EkQTTub5BZy34oVmUpUgNZ8+L VC064UaisE1RDTAjKFJONDrrsaFdB95lkMJ/GqatZJGC4YssW+zApCELl0ZGA3QTKT hhu9jWApZNpSVeLqoyGyh7qrcdfXYw+8RNpTMWtw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afc0e576d830701ce X-AOL-IP: 50.163.96.131 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 204.29.186.4 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204732 Archived-At: Hi, I'm trying to track down a possible problem with using local copies of elisp library files and variable corruption. I know that some Emacs libraries are dumped into Emacs so this may not be a problem with usage but only with its interaction with functions like `describe-variable'. Here's an example: 0. Create a .emacs file with the contents: (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/lisp") (load-theme 'tramp t nil) ; Load an available theme 1. Put a copy of "dired.el.gz" in ~/.emacs.d/lisp 2. emacs & 3. M-x describe-variable RET after-init-hook The variable `after-init-hook' then appears to be corrupted: after-init-hook is a variable defined in =E2=80=98startup.el=E2=80=99. Its value is (#[0 "\305\211\235\203\306\"\301\307!\210\210 \205(\n\205 = =0B\205 \310 ?\311 \210\312\211)\207" [command-line-args desktop-save-mode desktop-restore-frames initial-wi= ndow-system inhibit-startup-screen "--no-desktop" delete 0 daemonp desktop-= read t] 4] x-wm-set-size-hint) Thanks.