From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving GNU ELPA Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:23:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87pocxogsk.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87r2xg2wra.fsf@bernoul.li> <87pod02swk.fsf@bernoul.li> <8760eqxdko.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1500395021 28116 195.159.176.226 (18 Jul 2017 16:23:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 16:23:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 18 18:23:38 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVHa-0006wI-RI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 18:23:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57696 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVHg-0004RE-EV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:23:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50083) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVHW-0004OD-TW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:23:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVHW-0007HT-2b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:23:30 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:42423) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVHR-0007Eo-VS; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:23:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=VNb6x+a6oFmKJF9XQ2iGRa2PNX8fbViVGBtm1+ehM0s=; b=3bR3PI9riJ9fgmFWFZsmV0R5o xbNxDoSiJkzf3HMuLrRzdnZO7UF8OSuLseZNaBexKeXiu/4UUAjg78TGKq3tzc9HPjuh9jTX0Cc9d ozoNYfREvYAz8jNfScHngqyICkLWO30nx29g1cwOiFJPkQceVQWIN8O2TBT7uzSgJwiwaDlqcCV2a VLa0asxwyZK+ov3aPV7izjFqcEOmSr7JeLMtrpBfudUYpwGFdgt17B/REX76oDc16fhTl3KPjrDv8 Xs8c19RM0gkCcm8ChwFkEDAlQBOmKW5FCFI1X5Q9z1PldTDe17zcPW8vtX1RyvhapaWanXRsMQ3Al 7a5TXzUow==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:52352 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dXVHP-00388C-MT; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 16:23:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 18 Jul 2017 10:18:16 -0400") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216845 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > With dash, I can push to elpa, but not to upstream. So, changes occuring > > to dash on ELPA, have to be pulled onto a branch, turned into a PR for > > dash. > > The reason I say we should have admin access to the real repository > is to avoid problem situations like this one. As I said, it doesn't avoid the problem, it just changes the nature of that problem. As Stefan has said, at the moment, dealing with these issues is, anyway, consider the problem of the upstream person. The presence of push rights changes nothing if you do not use them. Phil