From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Gramiak Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFE] Migration to gitlab Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 15:56:25 -0600 Message-ID: <87pnoqht2u.fsf@gmail.com> References: <1552789070.5272.1@yandex.ru> <87imwhmmt8.fsf@gmail.com> <87y347g1l3.fsf@iotcl.com> <9ac21e82-8e47-f9b5-f88d-23c0c56946d1@yandex.ru> <87pnpc1lby.fsf@iotcl.com> <83zhoezdqc.fsf@gnu.org> <87imuivfcr.fsf@iotcl.com> <83k1eyfxls.fsf@gnu.org> <3b8e2195-07c0-a240-6164-8d34bcca344f@yandex.ru> <83ftpmfp0y.fsf@gnu.org> <838svefl3p.fsf@gnu.org> <658fcd11-dfad-2060-c84b-5da938d506b7@yandex.ru> <83woiydorm.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="125704"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: toon@iotcl.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Dmitry Gutov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 10 23:57:06 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hPDVp-000WWf-8d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 23:57:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50574 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPDVo-0004Uc-7j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 17:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52713) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPDVF-0004UV-8C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 17:56:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPDVE-0003LD-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2019 17:56:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-x632.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::632]:38943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hPDVE-0003Kr-3l; Fri, 10 May 2019 17:56:28 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x632.google.com with SMTP id g9so3418771plm.6; Fri, 10 May 2019 14:56:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=7sdgZynfqDCQG3fFekS16nraB/uVTo/SBpu4IrSiFiU=; b=jGLHdgi1vk+K+IW7DYUzfaflM6okYLThb5PfptcL4T4vzaxUFWJ4lMJe3ZJ2KAeZR8 BUzZgNc8U3u3f1x9BtHJBzRTuC4yB31YYnsgbGGtagk184jxPYCwN6f0dho8KSUBxJRH P0k4EYWQs1ZKXxHFo4hfeA2M97J/YAq9WgkjChhYXSx+D/DQ8soaTsUgH/n/IznExzNW CnYZLogkWGhYnvoL757ncit0wQaP2b7s5I9YwJ6enlcASSZlWZwvBIQotDAv+8iqxOn9 S4PZviweAFYmva3+53d4NL2Ed0GhnT5WZUDaRl4/i0YC6XI80rIvPuSsH+z4QglwfGDB oHNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=7sdgZynfqDCQG3fFekS16nraB/uVTo/SBpu4IrSiFiU=; b=gBj2qA344lAfr61W7M5njxY2XcX9rpGu2JLcxEw8xzKAw4zpgwLSzRlILSIKNDU0Rt DVIeIcBfr+GELRruB+acKHuTjJdAul/bJcYU445YVWBLR81h1iZTSoFXmNtC1x/4GHhl tSu23GQbNORwgCfv/xlAxWUyasuRxl2C9gJ1RmA4aq6efSbLCn5oKiTdyjf2NKwull/n bX46Fg1Y4+42GQIjann2BUZobDwztii2Vys+OT60Kf2oNKddyifwThfu4AY/TtgrBNE1 TbAPLu+WjbUJtH3M8jJ54oyjOSN+k9K0aZrGsWovfRNNAtc6CZVt4cYcgvu3sUlUtlvV +27Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXZMKwswWCU9XxoaNmJQGcbufRMIuvu6mJM8uPpuvqEL92CZLeX QKtLyjcXUIJ54XOJ1CAsYBZk4mgN X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqylZXGZx/Z3Cr9X+LNQ9YeL3Ox4mcIKkZ5/MPEu5wIRHvFsjw2qIEk5PE3ES/bfhxRH6+lYfQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:28e4:: with SMTP id f91mr15618379plb.321.1557525386229; Fri, 10 May 2019 14:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from lylat ([2604:3d09:e37f:1500:1a72:4878:e793:7302]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t25sm17039518pfq.91.2019.05.10.14.56.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 10 May 2019 14:56:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83woiydorm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 10 May 2019 23:43:09 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::632 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236396 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I wonder if I'm the only one here who feels that way. I mean, one of > the more important advantages of Emacs is that it lets you do many > things only tangentially related to editing program sources, and now > we suddenly are willing to give that up? Really?? I imagine that most of the people advocating for a switch to platforms like Gitlab don't want to give that up; instead, the browser would just be an alternative for people who don't (perhaps yet) want to (or know how to) do it in Emacs all the time. I'm one of the people that would like Emacs development to switch to Gitlab (or suitable equivalent), but would still plan to do most contributions through Emacs for the reasons you described. A problem here seems to be that Gitlab, outside of its browser workflow, doesn't currently offer some niceties that are to be expected, but hopefully this discussion helps to nudge the right people to work on these features there. If switching to Gitlab was given the OK by you and other core contributors after the desired features are available in Gitlab, then work on an Emacs frontend for Gitlab (that can be put in ELPA) would be much more enticing.