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From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A project-files implementation for Git projects
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:26:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pnk2zvvy.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bb1f26b6-f71d-0b7e-3fd6-87f67e8f350a@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sat, 14 Sep 2019 03:29:32 +0300")

Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:

Hi Dmitry,

> But we should get the details right, and IMO that means no
> "differences in semantics", and it implies certain requirements on the
> new VC backend action which we'll need to consider.

Sure.

> On 11.09.2019 23:01, Tassilo Horn wrote:
>> here is a working solution for a VC list-files function.  I've added
>> implementations for Git, Hg, Bzr, and SVN plus a default
>> implementation which probably does the right thing for all other
>> handled VC backends.  I guess Monotone also has the ability to
>> quickly list all tracked files but I haven't been able to install it.
>
> I don't think there's a point in delegating to backends where the
> performance will end up being worse. Though I see you added a faster
> implementation for SVN later.

As Eli said, just stat find is faster than, e.g., "bzr ls" on my
GNU/Linux system doesn't mean much.  One benefit is that if you have a
bzr project, you'll have bzr installed.  That doesn't need to be the
case for find at least on Windows systems.

>> I also added a vc `project-files' implementation which uses the VC
>> list-files feature for backends in a new list-valued defcustom
>> `project-vc-project-files-backends'.
>
> That implementation should both include untracked files (since it's
> what we'd generally expect from it given the current Project API
> semantics) and honor project-vc-ignores (which is something a user can
> set via dir-locals, and I personally found quite useful).

Hm, git can list untracked files, list ignored files, and also get a
custom ignore pattern.

"bzr ls" has an --unknown flag which should list unknown files and an
--ignored flag to list ignored files, but in my version it then just
lists nothing when I specify either one.

"hg files" doesn't seem to have a way to list untracked files.  Same for
subversion.

> Ideally it also should allow future support for whitelisting entries
> (that override ignores returned by Git), though that's not there yet.
>
> All this makes creating new VC action more difficult, but I think we
> can do that. Maybe not for all backends, but Git for sure, which will
> help 95% of our audience.

If you have an interface in mind (i.e., list-files all arguments and
their meaning), I can try and check how far we can get.

Bye,
Tassilo



  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-14 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-06  9:19 A project-files implementation for Git projects Tassilo Horn
2019-09-06 12:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-10  6:25   ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-10 12:56     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-10 13:39       ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-10 13:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-11 11:00           ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-11 20:01             ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-13 20:38               ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-14  0:29               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-14 16:26                 ` Tassilo Horn [this message]
2019-09-15 18:56                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-16  2:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-16  3:36                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-16 15:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-17 10:46                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-17 12:03                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-17 12:55                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-17 13:14                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-19 15:33                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-19 17:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-20 11:25                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-20 12:59                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-20 13:28                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-20 13:45                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-20 13:54                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-20 14:12                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-09-20 14:30                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-20 14:51                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-20 15:04                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-09-22  9:23                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-20 14:55                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-09-20 15:55                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-20 15:01                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-20 15:59                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-20 17:32                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-20 17:49                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-20 18:04                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-20 14:23                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-20 14:48                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-16 13:32                     ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-17 11:06                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-18 17:15                         ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-19 16:01                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-22  8:56                             ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-22  9:37                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-23  7:42                                 ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-23 12:22                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-27 16:17                                     ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-30  0:09                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-30  0:25                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-09-30  6:50                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-30 17:09                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-01  8:19                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-01 12:31                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-01 13:10                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-01 23:38                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-03  9:25                                                       ` Felician Nemeth
2019-10-03 10:32                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-03 11:15                                                           ` Felician Nemeth
2019-10-03 12:31                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-03 14:39                                                               ` Felician Nemeth
2019-10-03 14:42                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-03 15:10                                                                   ` Felician Nemeth
2019-10-03 15:15                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-01  8:11                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-03  8:33                                           ` Tassilo Horn
2019-10-03 13:19                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-03 17:15                                               ` Tassilo Horn
2019-10-03 22:49                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-04  7:47                                                   ` Tassilo Horn
2019-10-04  7:58                                                     ` Tassilo Horn
2019-10-04 13:16                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-04  8:49                                                     ` Tassilo Horn
2019-10-04 12:57                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-04 13:59                                                         ` Tassilo Horn
2019-10-04 15:24                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-04 12:16                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-04 13:08                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-03  7:41                                         ` Tassilo Horn
2019-10-03 12:33                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-03 12:51                                             ` Tassilo Horn
2019-10-04  5:52                                             ` Co-authoring and attribution in commit message (was: A project-files implementation for Git projects) Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-04  8:33                                               ` Co-authoring and attribution in commit message Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-04 21:36                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2019-10-05  6:55                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-03 23:02                                         ` A project-files implementation for Git projects Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-14  0:33             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-14 16:43               ` Tassilo Horn
2019-09-15  8:29                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-15  9:06                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-10 13:57         ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-10 14:24         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-09-10 14:41     ` Eli Zaretskii

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