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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251232 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: >>> Meanwhile, lsp-mode developers will address similar reports directly, >>> without footballing the users. >> They regularly solve LSP server bugs in lsp-mode? Very bad >> idea. Relying >> on features is one thing, relying on bugs is another thing entirely. > Did that report concern a bug in a language server? It didn't look > that way to me. I wasn't speaking of any particular one. I was telling how we work with Eglot users that report server bugs to us. You talked about "footballing users" and how lsp-mode adress them "directly". I assumed that means they hack lsp-mode.el of lsp-foo.el to work around server bugs, but I really have no idea. In fact I don't know what we're talking about anymore, I have to admit. >>> If you decide to only field Debbugs issues that have "eglot" or "lsp" >>> in the name, you will miss said reports. Who's going to address them? >> I supose it'll work the same way we deal with a bug report about "my >> colours are all garbled" and it turns out to be about font-lock, which >> the user is oblivious to. > Offloading work to other contributors, I see. Drats, you've uncovered my master plan. And I would have gotten away with it too. >>> That's how it's going to have to work anyway. >> No. If there is LSP support in emacs.git and Flyspell is in >> emacs.git, >> you just develop in the same repo, emacs.git. > So what? Implementation-wise, it will be a plugin either way. Which > would be just as easy to put in ELPA. I wrote "develop". And for the zillionth time: it _can_ be in ELPA too. Jo=C3=A3o