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From: Matthias Meulien <orontee@gmail.com>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: eww and bookmarks
Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 10:44:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pnatlo1h.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pnau45wp.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 24 May 2020 00:56:22 +0200")

Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:

> Matthias Meulien <orontee@gmail.com> writes: 
> 
>> Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com> writes: 
>> 
>> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2020-04/msg00265.html 
>> > says "installed!" but I'm not seeing it (though maybe my 
>> > git-fu is failing) 
>> 
>> On my side too, I could not find anything related on master. 
> 
> BTW, have you had a look at the discussion there?  Any opinion?

Yes, I read that thread. My use case is the same as the one of the 
OP of the thread you referenced: Being able to bookmark a web page 
and visit that page again in a different Emacs session, using the 
usual commands defined in bookmark.el (if using eww bookmarks, I 
would have to learn new kebindings and list bookmarks in different 
buffer than *Bookmark List*).
 
By the way, I can't imagine installing a third-party library for 
such a simple feature.
 
> How should the bookmarks behave?  Should they be exact 
> counterparts of eww bookmarks?  

I went through what eww info manual says on bookmarks and used 
those bookmarks once to understand what is the provided feature; I 
can't find anything not available from standard bookmarks. Can you 
give details on what would be lost if eww used bookmarks.el?

> Should they be linked to eww, or should it be possible to open 
> them also with another browser (e.g. w3m).

May be use `browse-url-default-browser`, but it's a different 
discussion IMOH; The current need is to make the user life simpler 
with a single place to search their bookmarks and don't ask them 
to learn a second set of key bindings, manage a new file 
containing bookmarks and configure news hooks in case they want to 
customize their bookmark list appearance...

Note that in the same direction there's a proposal to base 
bookmark list on `tabulated-list-mode` 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2020-01/msg01319.html. 
 
> Finally, what should I specify as `defaults' list for the name 
> suggestions available when you are prompted for a name for a new 
> bookmark?  Just the url? 

An HTML document may have a "title" element; Isn't it possible to 
use the value of that element when available? And the URL 
otherwise.

I apologize I've not found time to check your patch right now; 
I'll try it in the forthcoming days.
-- 
Matthias Meulien



  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-24  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-20 11:48 eww and bookmarks Matthias Meulien
2020-05-20 16:29 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-20 16:35   ` Noam Postavsky
2020-05-20 16:40     ` Drew Adams
2020-05-20 20:13     ` Matthias Meulien
2020-05-23 22:56       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-24  8:44         ` Matthias Meulien [this message]
2020-05-24 14:14           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-24 19:06             ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-25  4:35             ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-25  5:26               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-26  2:17                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-10 15:39                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-06-10 20:03                     ` Drew Adams
2020-05-25 12:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-25 13:52                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-05-25 15:03                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-05-25 15:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-25 23:40                   ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]                 ` <e23432dd-212b-4bf0-8e8c-185988c653f0@default>
2020-05-26  1:04                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-27  5:10                     ` Drew Adams
2020-05-25  4:28           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-05-25 14:35             ` T.V Raman
2020-05-20 22:14     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-07 15:09       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-07 15:30         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-07 16:13           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-07 16:36             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-06-07 18:23             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-08 14:49               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-08 16:54                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-10 12:01                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-07 16:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-06-07 18:23             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-08 14:42           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-06-08 16:58             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-10 12:06               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-10-26 18:15                 ` Adam Porter
2020-10-26 18:33                   ` Drew Adams
2020-10-26 18:43                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-26 19:05                     ` Adam Porter
2020-10-26 19:26                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-06-07 16:31         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-27  7:18 Boruch Baum
2020-05-27 14:40 ` Drew Adams

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