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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262806 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> git diff @{1} etc/NEWS >> >> "@{1}" means "the previous value of the current branch" >> (cf. gitrevisions(7)). > > Why not > > git log -p --since="" etc/NEWS > > ? > > It's easier, since it frees the user from remembering the tricky > syntax of reflog-revisions. > > Or how about simply using "C-x h C-x v h" with NEWS the current > buffer? One can stop reading when one gets to the date of the > previous update from Git. Right; my suggestion came from assuming that (1) remembering the date of the previous update is bothersome (2) one can set an alias to hide away the reflog syntax (which I also won't fault anyone for not wanting to waste brain cells on): git config alias.wassup 'diff @{1} etc/NEWS' >> While I personally spend a few minutes reading every commit after >> fetching[1], I wouldn't fault anyone for not watching etc/NEWS >> conscientiously. > > I wouldn't, either. But people who are interested in tracking the > development, not just in having the latest version, should do that, > and if they don't, there should be little surprise that some > developments are left unnoticed. Right? Absolutely! I'm mostly pondering ways to make changes to NEWS easier to track, although I admit I don't think this would entirely solve the issues raised in the parent thread. > OTOH, it shouldn't be hard to subscribe to emacs-diffs and only read > the changes to NEWS in it with some simple filter. This is Emacs, > after all. That ought to work just as well, yes.