From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Andrea G. Monaco" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unseen attribute doesn't get saved in rmail Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:28:30 +0100 Message-ID: <87pn2bmzdd.fsf@autistici.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8145"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 11 13:32:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kywNM-00020b-B1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:32:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42624 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kywNL-0002Ej-7F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 07:32:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59950) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kywJS-00012C-2m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 07:28:46 -0500 Original-Received: from devianza.investici.org ([198.167.222.108]:20735) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kywJP-0006Da-PB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 07:28:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.investici.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by devianza.investici.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDtKW4XYTz6v8y for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 12:28:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=autistici.org; s=stigmate; t=1610368111; bh=j6UtQSKxUUfQ6teObxaq/lS+LTMNVbTtaKrWA8UNnvs=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=UCl0ksWzjQG76L28skp6OtiznXaQhQQbrmI+RKCkdvvB44GkjcXP6bI8KHNRLqUBq nHlHqSFFgB5l4Q4bfOIQhmT5fHQ2NW0VWcxjvdjWUgTYmchmUYzAhAR4/8MK7lUTFh kcT5S0Ld0iA3H96Tf3gyPvmY4i2wZVIQLqmgjFHk= Original-Received: from [198.167.222.108] (mx2.investici.org [198.167.222.108]) (Authenticated sender: andrea.monaco@autistici.org) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DDtKW3CCwz6v8s for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2021 12:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.167.222.108; envelope-from=andrea.monaco@autistici.org; helo=devianza.investici.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262903 Archived-At: > I'm asking why is it important for your purposes to know whether the > mail was read for the first time or not. Because if it isn't very > important, the solution I proposed should work for you. My mailboxes get pretty big, some gigabytes usually, so saving the buffer takes some seconds. I only want to save it if it got modified, for example because I read some messages for the first time and thus changed their unseen flag. > That's the reason Rmail doesn't already have the feature you > want: I guess no one else uses it as you do Some features are more or less used than others. But saying that some use case is completely nonexistent is pretty strong: can you substantiate this claim? Unless you are arguing that a feature being absent means that no one wants it: I would obviously disagree with that claim. There's at least one person (probably more) who is unhappy with that behavior of rmail, and that's me. Cheers, Andrea Monaco