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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262963 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Robert Pluim writes: > >> So would I, but I can't make the future time commitment that Eli says >> is necessary. > > I appreciate Eli's worries here, but you said you had a Windows VM, so > you could test this before it's applied? So do I, so if we test this > thoroughly first, perhaps that'll alleviate some of the concerns. I have a Windows VM, but it doesn=CA=BCt currently have any dev tools installed. I think Eli is more worried about a year down the line when something breaks. I suppose if we made the change conditional on some variable as Stefan suggested, default enable, then people could always get back the previous behaviour by disabling it. I dislike that idea because it=CA=BCs more work, but perhaps it=CA=BCs necessary here. Robert