From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp code formatting Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:51:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87pmrfvp74.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87mtmmlgr6.fsf@gnus.org> <7e8a9104-5412-8f06-0976-e61e9d67f38e@gmail.com> <87y264kcza.fsf@gnus.org> <878ry4jwu4.fsf@gnus.org> <23fdeb99-e042-2f59-d4e4-7f5b2dea1381@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16189"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Campbell Barton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 04 17:54:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mig0E-0003y7-Ix for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:54:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57692 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mig0D-00025D-G4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2021 12:54:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33468) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mifyB-0005eq-NH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2021 12:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:46736) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mifyA-00066G-17 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Nov 2021 12:52:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=V8Y6WHprmAUWPbsq8E1n4/FWRDEZXFitqOI2caCKF20=; b=U8rx/hTw4t6XrSd+St3+tTYhxj ob6Y4mII+LS1ZsVnNvZU3h4R5V4tZ6BpGWmVZhmXf7ntHnWaL5zmy8CJfxsdDfmOaIPyOhYnh3BLa 0R3WEX537V+TmUZ7rGMmjAhAh2KBAIma6IvpwhfIz42ulqQZV8ON8L3RlQU+tfE6s84g=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mify5-0004N8-2u; Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:52:03 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEUgNXEtS4w0RXiE kqX///+Z2dV5AAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+ULBBAyCxRrqF4AAAG7SURBVDjLbZSJsSUh CEUBEwA7AdQEnpJ/bgMuvfwaq97SHJErSwP8XQL/WRyA/xj1eHxdEu2NKLEADxjpjuGL8bghj/Mv rOIOy6cVfgCEi6urANRbrbn6h9yQRXwfg1mnMSijYknmT5d//YBVzNr4tWJyXc1tFqCDYMm5lTFa z71XOSviZbxUa6kkutQeAIUy5davHva8QcgsrgeIfvAAnskkK0+mpKyD5mF07ID4Ae/E4xdQrqtK IiSzJDtHZBY/Bv06pg2YIsKgX9rxdkVISzwYjqafoKRTd8ffATs4ap+R6C7lLfeAx2MhCpDeYNc9 MsXScaRvDFgpfAOMnSTJgZQIfsBcVZI3Bov5BXndXDhA1sTNRAxG49W9C8gEXTo00yIfoCjIrrkp vmIINPbiijHMe9ANuPlR2UxdlZPyAlqrd6XL5Tpz/oBZKOpJq48HT+Bl5qtEzMtBLRP4NPiNRKcY MpVWswMND56SOUDVMo+QyBX7XMbjlu+dJSo77XS6eM8mB5hjtVrJVeJWmWG2Nd8jHvsiJsI9oLKB TCn11Vv3tZ7BudvOUT4gzgyFvOLnXF5gvyWWhLKE/QOg1ThHVgPcVQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVh dGUAMjAyMS0xMS0wNFQxNjo1MDoxMSswMDowMFtgbGgAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEt MTEtMDRUMTY6NTA6MTErMDA6MDAqPdTUAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: The Moon Seven Times's _7=49_: "Crybaby" In-Reply-To: <23fdeb99-e042-2f59-d4e4-7f5b2dea1381@gmail.com> (Campbell Barton's message of "Thu, 4 Nov 2021 17:51:44 +1100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278684 Archived-At: Campbell Barton writes: > Not sure what you mean exactly, while developing packages > functions/macros may change, so I don't think it's reasonable to > assume the evaluated state in emacs has loaded into memory is up to > date. That is the assumption. If you're writing code that uses (say) `thread-first', it will be indented wrong until you load its definition. > Auto formatters are becoming more popular in other languages though, > clang-format (C/C++), black (for Python)... once you're used to > running them automatically on save, it feels like a step backwards not > to have this feature available. Yes, auto-formatting is cool, but outside the scope of a "better pp". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no