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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284142 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 04 Jan 2022 18:30:53 +0800, Po Lu said: Po> FWIW, I don't think any change to the default custom file would be a Po> good idea. It's too well-established a default to be changed becau= se Po> several people find it ugly. Plenty of people also object to Emacs writing stuff to their init file by default. How about: "use a separate custom file if the init file contains no custom-set-variables nor custom-set-faces". Of course, then we=CA=BCd have to add "(load custom-file)" to .emacs, so people might still object :-) Robert --=20