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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284248 Archived-At: Sean Whitton writes: >> I also think it's high time that we default to not having the Customize >> stuff in the init file, but put it in a different file. > > A few people have mentioned this but I don't understand why -- I > recently dropped a really old setq for custom-file because I couldn't > come up with any advantages to having it in a separate file. It's disturbing to many to find that Emacs has made changes in a file that you thought they were in control of. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no